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#294444 - 09/27/10 10:18 PM Re: Is the arranger market very fragmented?
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“They don't want to listen to common sense, because, among that lot, common sense isn't very common.”

Completely agree that is why we have to show Yamaha that it is common sense to make a good 76 key arranger.
So everyone, join in the campaign to get Yamaha to apply common sense and make a lightweight 76 key PSR S910 successor.

And to those who are tired of the discussion about Yamaha making a good 76 key arranger, don’t complain to me but tell Yamaha. Tell them you are tired of discussions about a Yamaha 76 arranger and you would like them to meet the demand and make a good 76 key arranger. Only then will the discussion go away.


[This message has been edited by to the genesys (edited 09-27-2010).]
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#294445 - 09/27/10 10:39 PM Re: Is the arranger market very fragmented?
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Originally posted by abacus:
Hi Diki
All the feedback from dealers and owners I have spoken to over the years was that it was only the 9000 Pro that flopped, the 9000 sold as well as any other Yamaha Arranger.

If you want a Yamaha Tyros 76, then badger the Yamaha forums, dealers, distributers and manufacturers, (Forget the general forums) as if enough badger them and convince the accountants there is a profit to be made with a 76 Tyros, then they will make one.

Remember, if at first you don’t succeed try & try again. (Just make sure you target the ones that make the decisions)

Bill


That was because they released the 9000 pro when every Yamaha fan in the world allready owned a 9000...

And only those very desperate for 76 keys switched over and some new people went for the Pro too.

Just look at the 2nd hand Yamaha market overhere in the Netherlands, the 9000 pro is currently selling for more then the T1, i can only guess why this is offcourse.
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#294446 - 09/28/10 01:06 AM Re: Is the arranger market very fragmented?
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I was under the impression that the 9000 suffered the same OS problems that plagued the 9000pro. But you say it sold quite well? I remain skeptical...

But, OTOH, it perhaps goes to show what a low-expectations bunch Yamaha's 61 note players must be, in general, to accept happily the same keyboard and OS that so annoyed the 76 players..!
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#294447 - 09/28/10 02:14 AM Re: Is the arranger market very fragmented?
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Originally posted by to the genesys:


So everyone, join in the campaign to get Yamaha to apply common sense and make a lightweight 76 key PSR S910 successor.



I wish you the best of luck on your little campaign.

I have sent your request for a lightweight 76 key PSR-S910 successor to head office.

Ian
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#294448 - 09/28/10 02:32 AM Re: Is the arranger market very fragmented?
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Sadly, as balkanized as the Yamaha divisions are, I have little hope there will ever be one. But I'm not going to stop asking for one, and I'm not going to stop pointing out some of the fallacies that get used to 'justify' Yamaha's decision...

And I appreciate the passing on of the request. I KNOW you meant to do that for me as WELL as TTG, of course!
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#294449 - 09/28/10 03:40 AM Re: Is the arranger market very fragmented?
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
I wish you the best of luck on your little campaign.

I have sent your request for a lightweight 76 key PSR-S910 successor to head office.

Ian



Thanks for your support. I will use it with you in mind or some place else?

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#294450 - 09/28/10 03:43 AM Re: Is the arranger market very fragmented?
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Originally posted by Diki:
I have little hope there will ever be one. But I'm not going to stop asking for one, and I'm not going to stop pointing out some of the fallacies that get used to 'justify' Yamaha's decision...



Neither do I...it seems the old "beating a dead horse" still applies.

Those fallacies that get used to 'justify' Yamaha's decision have yet to be proved "fallacies"...up to now, we only have uneducated guesses.

KingFrog posted the answer he received from Yamaha in one of his posts...I'm inclined to think it is true, but as always, you are skeptical...that's cool.

Unlike the skeptic, the positive thinker is one who, when he/she sees the handwriting on the wall, does not think it is a forgery!

Keep berating and insulting the manufacturer...it might get results, but then again...did it work for Tyros, Tyros2, Tyros3, or PSR-S900?

Count the keys on the Tyros4 and PSR-S910...that should give you a hint.

Good luck.

Ian
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