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#295666 - 10/10/10 06:05 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Dayton, OH USA
Thanks Donny...

It sounded fine...No offense, but I don't think that was the "its own art form" example, right?

Would you go into a bit of the detail on your approach with it in general, not just to that particular tune?

I don't even need to hear it-I'm more interested your approach, levels, etc. Like Dave and I did...

Give us a few paragraphs on how you approach it...

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#295667 - 10/10/10 06:27 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
Dnj Offline
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I approach it as if I had a few singers with me ....which I dont anymore sind reducing myself from 7 to a OMB the last 17 years.....using it sparingly is another good tip.....I try to use it just to enhance certain lyrical passages and still keep it in my own arrangement. I use to be a VH bogart but lately I have weened myself off using it too much as its bad enough people think were faking it when they listen & see to ONE MAN up there and all that music....
now your adding all those singing parts ....
it only digresses the authenticity versus the faking aspect to the audience & confirms to them that is not real.
I have since moved on from the PA800 in that demo a few years ago, thats when I started to notice how fake it sounded as in that demo, tahst why I posted it.........
& due to the fact that I now use the S910 & the VH wasn't up to par I really have been using it very lightly or mostly not at all anymore...
When I record in my studio.. I use a Digitech VR where I can really get into the separate harmony vocal tracks but many time I will just record single harmony vocal tracks which me the best flexability.........
I used to record my shows and listen to the VH with all my units Tc, Digitech, etc,......after a while it started to sound like a hokey gimmicky effect....using it live alot doesn't let you really give it it's due as when you can dissect it while recording in a studio.
There is no answer to try to tell you how to do it.... it has to be YOUR approach if your good enough to make it believable.....being someone is playing mostly cover songs then try to accommodate with the same harmony you hear in the original....I basically use LH chord triggering when using it live...but lately Less is MORE when it comes to gigging and using VH on stage as a One man band!
No vh will evert replace the "different human voices"...




[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-10-2010).]

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#295668 - 10/10/10 06:34 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
tony mads usa Offline
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WHAT?!?!? ... the link is gone already??? ... I click on the link and get something like this - although NOT in this format -

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... and that's not the whole thing .. ???

No slight intended at anyone else (as I said, I couldn't hear Donny's tune), the ABSOLUTE BEST use of a harmonizer was by Uncle Dave, and unfortunately it seems his web site is no longer available ... I would LOVE for him to post his "Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square" ...
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#295669 - 10/10/10 06:46 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
Dnj Offline
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Tony Ive have since taken down the song .....although Daves version is realy great as he triggers the harmonies with his "right hand" chordings.......
one song doesn't make a vocal harmonizer....

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#295670 - 10/10/10 07:31 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
tony mads usa Offline
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... I don't think it was just one song .. "Nightingale" just stood out from the rest ...
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#295671 - 10/11/10 01:56 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 2202
Loc: Dayton, OH USA
Thanks for posting that, Donny...

Seems like most of us are using older harmonizers, as opposed to the newer ones on the market.

I wonder why?

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#295672 - 10/11/10 04:56 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
Jerryghr Offline
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1497
Loc: Buffalo, NY
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dnj:
[b]Heres a short demo of me using my Pa800 vocalizer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjeMDvCdrtc

[This message has been edited by Jerryghr (edited 10-11-2010).]

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#295673 - 10/11/10 06:19 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Jerryghr:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dnj:
[b]Heres a short demo of me using my Pa800 vocalizer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjeMDvCdrtc

[This message has been edited by Jerryghr (edited 10-11-2010).]


One of the best vocals I have heard on SZ....
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#295674 - 10/11/10 06:40 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 12/06/99
Posts: 2133
Loc: Muskegon, MI
Fran,

That was absolutely great. It sounded like a Yamaha harmonizer.

Tom
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#295675 - 10/11/10 08:19 PM Re: T4 Vocal Harmonizer
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 3354
Loc: The World
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
One of the best vocals I have heard on SZ....


Well each to their own I suppose. I wouldn't go that far Fran, but it was decent and competent.And as I said before showed a little "over-use", but not annoyingly so.

Dennis

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