Which (if any) arranger kbs incorporate a feature to easily change the volume of a Style's individual drum part(s) (kick, hi hat, snare, etc)?

To do this on Yamaha arrangers requires going into STYLE 'step edit' mode, and individually locating 'every occurrence' of a given drum part (aka: note) and then having to manually raise/lower the velocity of every occurance of that note individually. This is both tedious and time consuming. I'd prefer a dedicated on board arr kb 'drumkit editor' of which to support universally changing the % volume of a given drum (note) part (hi hat, snare, bass, etc). Do any of the other arranger brands include such a feature?

Scott

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Roland G70 does this better then any arranger KB I have ever performed with...simply & efficiently down to the very most "detailed seperate drum kit edits"..on EACH part of the KIT...way beyond just Vol, Pan, EQ,....
BTW Scott does this mean your back on SZ to induldge in conversation again? or?...

http://www.roland.com/products/en/G-70/



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-07-2010).]

I find this quite easy to do on the Korg PA1x as well. Not found the option on the T3 yet.

Hi Scottyee,I am glad to se you here.Its loong time to last hear you.
My ansver on your question is positive.On Audya is paseble to set volume for ich instrument in drum section.Allso I can set Reverb and Pan on the same way like volume.

You can adjust the volume of drum parts on Korg arrangers as well. There is a dedicated menu to do this easily.

Hi Scott...in the PA2XPRO's (PA800 as well)style play mode you can do what you want.

Page 101 in the manual has a feature to change each DRUM FAMILY volume in relation to what is recorded in the original style.

8 familys are listed, kick,snare,tom,hi hat,cymbal,perc1,perc2,EFX

So you can bring up a style...change any/all drum groups to be the way you want...play..OR of course you could save this as a perfornance and have it the way you want when you call up that perfomace.
It effects this style onlty and is not global to all styles.

You DO NOT have to go into each occurance. This adj the drum group for the whole style.

Hope this helps.

Lee S.

Once you have multi-velocity drum sounds (that change the actual sample played as you hit harder), there is a very significant difference between raising a drum's volume, and raising the drum's velocity.

Having an edit system that allows BOTH is just about essential, IMO.

Donny is right in that Roland made doing this easier than any other arranger, and it makes a RADICAL difference to how easy it is to tweak conversions and user styles to your taste. After all, if something is easy to do, you are likely to want to do it. Make it hard, and you are most likely to not bother (and suffer one way or another from the drop in sound quality)....

BTW, all Roland E series arrangers (E50/60/80) as well as the G70 had this capability. You don't have to get the TOTL to have access to this.

This is one of the main reasons I like my dinosaur i30. I have live access to nine volumn sliders. Drum, Perc, Bass, Acc1, acc2, acc3, main, and sub. This is handy with midi files also.

I also still have the best sequencer of any arranger. A friend told me his PX whatever did not have as good a sequence as his old Korg i30 and he missed it. I had to have the sequencer for backup for playing my tenor.

To me I can't understand playing without the sliders. On some tunes I want the drums volumn higher even on the same style for a different song.
Boo

Sadly, that's the case with Yamaha's drum tracks...other brands do it better.

If you've tried a Korg PA2Xpro/800, maybre they could appeal to you and give you the editing detail you need.

Roland's out of the game for the time being (maybe for good), but there appears to be a good possibilty of a new TOTL Korg arranger in the near future, if rumors can be trusted.

Then again, if you liked what you heard when you played the present models, perhaps a 2Xpro or 800 would be a fine choice.

By the way, it's great to see you posting again...you were missed.

Ian

Boo,
Yes the PA2XPRO has those slides and they are super...I use them for all kinds of things AND there is an option to have them user programmed. As well as volume, drawbar, mic modes.

Lee S.