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#296006 - 10/21/10 08:57 PM
Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Originally posted by to the genesys:
Nope. you still did not get the full meaning of that statement. Read the statement in context and if you are good you will get it.
Have you not notice hwo the Roland and Korg players a lot of the time talk about the key feel and how strong the G70 and PA 2x pro feels? And, it is not that those users would not buy a PSR 76 but they would use it as their secondary keyboard. Just like what Diki said he would do. So you see its not just about quoting a line but the thought.
m8, I currently own a G70, have owned a MS, a Pa1xpro and a Pa2xPro, so I am sorta qualified to make the comments I did. And IF you are good you will also read that Diki WOULD buy a 76 note PSR!!!! That statement of yours, whether in the context you claim, or not is STILL making an assumption about everybody on this forum. Please, you are dealing with an ex-journo, don't play semantics with me  The rest of your post was fine, as far as that goes. Which is why I took issue ONLY with that line. Whatever you said after it is beside the point.
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#296008 - 10/21/10 09:01 PM
Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Originally posted by to the genesys:
OK so apparently some persons seem to be getting confused with intended markets for keyboards.
The persons who will buy a Roland G70, Pa2x pro, Audya 76, MS are not the same persons who will buy a lightweight compact Yamaha 76 key arranger.
The Yamaha arranger market is primarily the home player. The other brands are targeting the semipro and pro market. And for the semipro and pro market looks and build quality are very important.
Why do you think the G70, PA2x pro, Audya 76 and MS are constructed the way they are?
So if Yamaha were to add a 76 key T4 they would have to build it like the Roland’s and Korgs and like Yamaha said, it would not be worth it for them to do that. It is just too small of a market for them to venture into.
Even adding a 76 key PSR to a 61 key production will not do well for Yamaha. Why? The persons who will buy the 61 key PSR will still buy the 61 key PSR. They may get a few person to buy the 76 key PSR but it would not be enough for Yamaha to come out ahead. The market for a G70, Pa2x pro, Audya for the most part will not buy a 76 key PSR built the same way the 61 key PSR is built.
However, the 76 key PSR would be for those who want a lightweight, easy to use, very mobile keyboard to use at home and easy to transport to little gigs. It would be for those players (whether 61 or 76 key players) who want an all purpose keyboard and are not concerned with build quality and name.
Making the next PSR only 76 keys would not deter the 61 key buyer because their needs would be incorporated in the 76 key version. Really all the 61 key player wants is the keyboard to be compact, light and not heavy.
Also, if Yamaha market the keyboard (as they most likely would), as the greatest sounding PSR, the 61 key players would be compelled to buy the PSR 76.
And if a 61 key PSR must absolutely be built, Yamaha can make one with less features and price it less. So for example, right now Yamaha has the S910 and the S710. Yamaha could make the successor to the S910 76 keys and the successor to the S710 61 keys.
Here is the original full post
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#296010 - 10/21/10 09:35 PM
Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Originally posted by miden: m8, I currently own a G70, have owned a MS, a Pa1xpro and a Pa2xPro, so I am sorta qualified to make the comments I did.
And IF you are good you will also read that Diki WOULD buy a 76 note PSR!!!!
That statement of yours, whether in the context you claim, or not is STILL making an assumption about everybody on this forum.
Please, you are dealing with an ex-journo, don't play semantics with me
The rest of your post was fine, as far as that goes. Which is why I took issue ONLY with that line.
Whatever you said after it is beside the point.
Miden, You did own a MS what happened?
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#296012 - 10/21/10 09:52 PM
Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Originally posted by to the genesys:
OK so apparently some persons seem to be getting confused with intended markets for keyboards.
The persons who will buy a Roland G70, Pa2x pro, Audya 76, MS are not the same persons who will buy a lightweight compact Yamaha 76 key arranger.
The Yamaha arranger market is primarily the home player. The other brands are targeting the semipro and pro market. And for the semipro and pro market looks and build quality are very important.
Why do you think the G70, PA2x pro, Audya 76 and MS are constructed the way they are?
So if Yamaha were to add a 76 key T4 they would have to build it like the Roland’s and Korgs and like Yamaha said, it would not be worth it for them to do that. It is just too small of a market for them to venture into.
Even adding a 76 key PSR to a 61 key production will not do well for Yamaha. Why? The persons who will buy the 61 key PSR will still buy the 61 key PSR. They may get a few person to buy the 76 key PSR but it would not be enough for Yamaha to come out ahead. The market for a G70, Pa2x pro, Audya for the most part will not buy a 76 key PSR built the same way the 61 key PSR is built.
However, the 76 key PSR would be for those who want a lightweight, easy to use, very mobile keyboard to use at home and easy to transport to little gigs. It would be for those players (whether 61 or 76 key players) who want an all purpose keyboard and are not concerned with build quality and name.
Making the next PSR only 76 keys would not deter the 61 key buyer because their needs would be incorporated in the 76 key version. Really all the 61 key player wants is the keyboard to be compact, light and not heavy.
Also, if Yamaha market the keyboard (as they most likely would), as the greatest sounding PSR, the 61 key players would be compelled to buy the PSR 76.
And if a 61 key PSR must absolutely be built, Yamaha can make one with less features and price it less. So for example, right now Yamaha has the S910 and the S710. Yamaha could make the successor to the S910 76 keys and the successor to the S710 61 keys.
Do you know all this to be completely true or is this just your hypothesis or have you something to do with the Yamaha Company internally. Then pray tell me how a young dog knows how to cock its leg up so it doesn’t p…s on it, that’s why people buy 76 note KBs, I did. It's as simple as that!
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