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For those who may have missed this
TTG wrote: “Its not like the problem can not be solved?
So Yamaha makes a PSR S 910 successor with 76 keys.
It is everything we would expect the successor to be (great sounds, styles and some features from the T4 and so on…….)
This keyboard was 19 LBS and it was 43 inches long.
they also made a 61 key version that have the same sounds, styles and features but was 25 LBS and was 42.5 inches long.
The price for both is the same.
Which one would you get and why.”

If one or two persons are dissatisfied with persons wanting a Yamaha 76 key arranger don’t blame the posters. Get in contact with Yamaha and tell them to make a good 76 key arranger so that the many persons who post on SZ on this topic could stop requesting a good 76 key Yamaha arranger.


It is obvious that when the T1, T2, T3 and now T4 came out there is always a request by many person for Yamaha to make a good 76 key arranger. Does that not tell you something?

BTW Iana could not keep his word could he.



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TTG

I don't care how many keys any manufacturer's arranger keyboard features, just as long as I can play it. It could have 48 or 108--it makes no difference as long as I can play it.

To me, and I guess I must be in the minority, the number of keys is a non-issue. It's what comes out of the speakers that concerns me most. I guess that's why I've owned so many different brands over the past couple decades. They've all had some great sounds, despite the number of keys.

I guess I'm pretty easy to satisfy. If the keyboard sounds great that's what is the most important feature to the vast majority of musician/entertainers I know. If it doesn't sound great, the number of keys is irrelevant. Kinda' like owning a great looking car that doesn't run.

Just prior to your arrival here on the zone, there was the same kind of heated discussion pertaining to key size--another non-issue for me. There were a tiny number of individuals that bitched about Yamaha's keys being too small and too close together. Over an octave range, by actual measurement with a micrometer, this amounted to almost 1/32-inch, which for some folks must have really hindered their playing.

Then there has always been the weighted V/S semi-weighted V/S light action V/S hammer action issue. Thankfully, that one faded away as well.

Issues such as these seem to take up lots of bandwidth, but by and large no one benefits from these endless tirades of which there is no sensible conclusion. Now, as I've stated in the past, anyone that feels that strongly about the number of keys issue should sit down at their PC or Mac and compose a letter to the manufacturer, one that clearly states your case. They do read them, you know. And, if they get enough letters (not emails), they will usually respond favorably. It will not likely happen tomorrow afternoon--but they will respond. And, this has been the case with nearly every, successful manufacturer.

Cheers,

Gary

for a 76 key Kb arranger why can't you just buy a Pa2x, Audya, Mediastation, G70, E60, .......


why? because the Yamaha sounds the best that's why........so they sacrifice the best sounding unit for 15 keys.....its hilarious to read.....and futile to see all the jealous procrastinators ...who wouldn't buy a 76 T4 at $5000.00+ anyway if there was one..so whats the point.......?

Don't be so childish, Genny...I simply changed my mind...that's my prerogative.

By the way, you should try changing your mind...the one you have has only one track.

Ian

Kingfrog...BS...Why risk...What? They would not get rid of 61 so there is no risk at all.
Customers would merely choose which one is best for them...WIN...WIN..

Ian..no sir...I have lots of customers...if I make a product decision, and they ask be why, I tell them...Yes, I do owe my loyal customers (and even prospects)answers. I've been doing this over 40 years...so I do have a good idea how to please customers.

Lee S.

Donny,
You can get a T4 for about $3300. So a 76 T4 would maybe be $3800. Sold.
Where did $4,500 - $5,000 come from?
Oh, I forgot...why is a 76 key PA2XPRO gotten for about $3,200...and a T4 61 $3300?
Simple because it don't cost that much to add the 15 keys.
Lee S.

[This message has been edited by leeboy (edited 10-15-2010).]

Depends where you live...& what kind of store is selling the unit....but dont worry a Tyros 76 will NEVER be available.
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-YAM-TYROS4-LIST



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-15-2010).]

I'm glad your methods work for you Lee.

Best of luck,

Ian

Gary wrote: “I don't care how many keys any manufacturer's arranger keyboard features, just as long as I can play it.”


If only Yamaha and others could think like you.
The only time the number of keys really matter is if you have less than what you want. For a person who wants 76 keys a 61 key would not suffice because 61 is less than 76. For a person who wants 61 keys, 49 would not suffice because 49 is less than 61.


However, the opposite is not true. For a person who wants 61 keys, a 76 key would suffice because 76 is more than 61. So to a person who is content with 61, what does it matter if the keyboard has 15 extra keys than they want?
You know, for all the detractors of 76 keys, no one, including Yamaha, has shown how in the world a 76 key arranger would prevent person from buying a great sound Yamaha arranger.

People keep talking about this discussion has been going on for years. You know why, because the points that the detractors make just does not make much sense.


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