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#296016 - 10/22/10 04:24 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
to the genesys Offline
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Originally posted by miden:
Here is the original full post


Thank You for reposting.
Perhaps not the best written post.
The comment at the beginning of the post was referring to the making of a T4 with 76 keys.

My later comment: “However, the 76 key PSR would be for those who want a lightweight, easy to use, very mobile keyboard to use at home and easy to transport to little gigs. It would be for those players (whether 61 or 76 key players) who want an all purpose keyboard and are not concerned with build quality and name.” I had to clarify as the “quickie” keyboard for both 61 and 76 players.


But it is all good M8.


BTW Diki did say he would buy a PSR 76.
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#296017 - 10/22/10 04:42 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
Do you know all this to be completely true or is this just your hypothesis or have you something to do with the Yamaha Company internally. Then pray tell me how a young dog knows how to cock its leg up so it doesn’t p…s on it, that’s why people buy 76 note KBs, I did. It's as simple as that!


no one knows any of it to be completely true.
It is no more speculation than what some persons are engaging in by suggesting customers should do their own survey the confirm a well known fact and thinking Yamaha will act on such a survey.




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#296018 - 10/22/10 08:03 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Multimillion pound experiment !!

What are you guys drinking? (I'll have some with you)

All they need to do is:
1) New case design/and new mold (plastic injection molding) Maybe only for the keybed area.
2) 76 key keyboard instead of a 61 (Cost + $50 max per keyboard) Just look ar Fatar prices)
3) Updated keybed decoder
4) Upated keymap programming.

The most expensive part of all this is the new mold(s) they need.

Yamaha already does Motif in 61, 76, 88 so they are good at having multiple options on keybed sizes...

Piece of cake.

One a different note...Yesterday I checked out the newest Yamaha Clavinova (CVP-500PM )...very impressive!
If it had full T4 capabilities...I might bite!

Lee S.
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#296019 - 10/22/10 08:11 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Originally posted by leeboy:
One a different note...Yesterday I checked out the newest Yamaha Clavinova (CVP-500PM )...very impressive!
If it had full T4 capabilities...I might bite!

Lee S.


The Clavinova with T4 capabilities will be the CVP-6** series...the 5 series is last year's model, and based on the Tyros3.

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#296020 - 10/22/10 08:29 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Originally posted by leeboy:
Multimillion pound experiment !!



Companies will stop making certain types of switches, or eliminate a control, just to save a few dollars/unit.

A new instrument...another assembly line...more workers/robots...that's an expense you can't easily measure.

Making a new instrument that doesn't sell is a major cost to a company.

You can assume this type product will sell, but you are still guessing.

Why doesn't Korg/Ketron make a MOTL 76'er if this market is so lucrative? Surely you aren't the only one to discover this, if it is so obvious?

Companies need proof, not guesses.

Ian



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#296021 - 10/22/10 09:03 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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This whole thread only confirms even more that YAMAHA has the BEST sound in any arranger on the market today.

Thank you

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#296022 - 10/22/10 11:19 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14277
Loc: NW Florida
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
I do know the 88 DGX outsells the 76 by a long way.


And yet, Yamaha continue to make it... Doesn't that disprove your theory that the 76 MUST sell a whole lot JUST to make Yamaha interested in making it?

Of course it doesn't... Why should FACTS get in the way of a perfectly good argument?

Now, back to the number of angels dancing on that pinhead (no, not you, Ian!)
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#296023 - 10/22/10 11:23 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Originally posted by Dnj:
This whole thread only confirms even more that YAMAHA has the BEST sound in any arranger on the market today.

Thank you


How do you make that assumption from a thread about 76 keys.
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#296024 - 10/22/10 11:26 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Ian,
In all due respect..these type of units are selling AS WE SPEAK.

There is no experiment.

Thank's for the info on the Clav...It may be in my cards. But, only if it has ALL the features of the arragner.
Lee S.
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#296025 - 10/22/10 11:30 AM Re: Would You Buy A Tyros 4 with 76 keys?.......
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Originally posted by Diki:
And yet, Yamaha continue to make it... Doesn't that disprove your theory that the 76 MUST sell a whole lot JUST to make Yamaha interested in making it?

Of course it doesn't... Why should FACTS get in the way of a perfectly good argument?

Now, back to the number of angels dancing on that pinhead (no, not you, Ian!)


Yes, they do Diki...the DGX is another division, the "piano based" arranger...they also make unweighted 88's, and so on...a very versatile company, is Yamaha, and very successful.

In the pure Arranger division...61 rules.

They haven't been able to make any angels dance on the head of a pin...perhaps you could show them?

Ian
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