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#296153 - 10/13/10 05:59 AM
Re: OASYS + Mediastation = The Future Now
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Senior Member
Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 1115
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
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Originally posted by Diki: Trying to have it both ways, James...?
Yes, FOR ME (and for what is probably a pretty large percentage of live gigging arranger users) a one keyboard setup is a fairly important part of our equipment decision process. And I get enough flack from most of them for using just ONE keyboard that weighs less than EITHER of your choices..!
Given that the MS was SUPPOSED to be an arranger, still has the arranger software in it from the original release (with updates), it is still fair to talk about it in arranger terms. Having to buy a REAL arranger to make it work is totally unacceptable. From the very beginning, I have always said I 'get it'... I understand the POTENTIAL of the open arranger. If, in any real PRACTICAL sense of the word, it offered the ease and convenience of a modern TOTL closed arranger, it would be a complete no-brainer because of how much FURTHER you could take it.
But, after so much back and forth between us, and many other open arranger evangelists, well, first of all, your admittance that you would be happy as you are now in arranger terms with a PA2Xpro and an MS, all I can hear here is a frank and total admission that, after you promised us that you were working on making the MS into as good an arranger as a closed one, you have pretty much given up on that pipedream.
As, to be frank, pretty much ALL the posters here on this forum that kept telling us the same thing must have done so too. We, as per usual, are certainly not hearing any music done in arranger mode on an MS that proves otherwise. Or, for that matter, proves us right..! The MS... the quietest arranger in the world!
I know it bugs the hell out of you whenever I try to inject a note of reality into the proceedings, but this IS an arranger forum. You post that you are happy linking two workstations together, but get mad when it is pointed out that ONE of them was sold to us as an arranger, and still, years later, sucks! If you want the happy reception of your news, it is likely you would get it posting this on a workstation forum...
I am happy you like your sound. I am happy you like linking the Oasys and the MS. I really am....
But I'm an arranger player. If I want to go and talk about WS's, and VSTi players, and stuff like that, I'll go to a WS forum. I am pretty sure, were I to post there how happy I was with a product that was SUPPOSED to be a great WS but turned out to suck, and was, in fact, a MUCH better arranger, it would get the reception it DESERVED on the WS forum! And complaining that the rest of them just didn't get it would get me the reception I deserve!I actually agree with Diki here, even though he sounds like a broken record, he makes some very valid points (no offense).... I have not heard one performance come out of mediastation that actually impresses my ears. I am more visually impressed by what I see though. it does look like an awesome system - check out this video below: the drum software looks so good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE-cCt4-caE&feature=related Maybe Lionstracs need Bert Smorenberg from Yamaha demoing their products?? the Yamaha Motif XF with flash memory is a dead set winner for me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSDOORN79r0 Nick
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