And THAT'S where style editing comes in.Enough can be done to re record parts to put some more distance between the original and one's rendition. I have the same complaints with all the styles. But one has to remember, Arrangers are made to REPRODUCE that which has already been done.....Work Stations are use for completely original creations

Guys and Gals - as y'all know, on a lot of the intros (and endings) it's easy to just eliminate the lead line/melody, and you can add your own variations against the chords and it eliminates the reference line from some popular song.

James Good job thanks for sharing these & kudos on your wonderful website
http://www.yamahapkowner.com/

BTW what do you think of the 61/76 Tyros controversy?..

Good one, Randy, another way of getting more mileage out of a style.

Back in the day, when instruments had only 50-100 on-board styles (or less), having styles that weren't song specific was more important.

Today, with USB drives, there are hundreds of styles available instantly, with the push of button, so having song specific styles is no longer a problem.

Ian

Thanx for the info James, I should have listened to more And thanx for your efforts and great site.

I have about 1500 styles on my G70..ready to play at a touch of the style name..but who in the world would need this many styles..

Tops I use maybe 20 styles (5 or 6 Korg conversions..no Yamaha or Ketron conversions)..
Turning off parts or using the "make up" tools changes the style dramatically enough to not sound over used..

If you have some styles you want to use that are song oriented..okay, what maybe another 10-12...that is 30-32 styles....

Personally, I like what Yamaha has finally done with the "vocal" tones..This has been a missing ingredient in all Yamaha keyboards..Kudos to them for added them...Like previously mentioned..change your style tones if you think it is overdone..

I know changing tones within a style is not as easy as other brands (in real-time)..but you can make the changes and re-save the style..

I will check out the drums on the Tyros4 this week (They have to get better before the board is a consideration for me)..and I need to hear a better over all sound (more live)..someone mentioned Yamaha has improved this...I will know soon...

After these improvements..and a promise of a 76 key version...and a street price of around $3,000.....then I could be a candidate..

Fran, if you get to try a Tyros4, I will be very interested in your impressions.

Because you are a hard-core Roland enthusiast, you won't be going into it with any prejudice or brand loyalty from the Yamaha side of things.

My Uncle Jim used to say, "If you really want to know what a person is like, ask someone who doesn't like them."

That way you'll get a good understanding of their character, without any friendship/loyalty to color the results.

I will be interested to learn if you think it is a substantial upgrade from the Tyros3, which you said you have tried.

Also I would like to know if you feel the sound is more "live."

Ian

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In other words NEVER until the G70 predecessor is released...

just listened to the tyros sound demos. Great sound but the vocals in the styles are teriible and very very unrealistic. You can hear that they have taken the same same 'hey' and 'woe' and 'ahh' and strectched it for every style where it is used and it sounds totally unrealistic unless you have a bunch of munchkins as in your choir. Seriously bad move.are terrible

Munchkins?.....