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#296888 - 10/16/10 01:18 PM Re: Will you sacrifice the great STEREO Tyros 4 sound using just a MONO Bose unit?.
Songman55 Offline
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A month ago I had an important concert so I bought a second Bose Compact. The results were amazing. I will use the double set up for big jobs. I will still use one unit for most retirement and NH jobs.

Joe

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#296889 - 10/16/10 01:52 PM Re: Will you sacrifice the great STEREO Tyros 4 sound using just a MONO Bose unit?.
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NEVER!!

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#296890 - 10/16/10 03:10 PM Re: Will you sacrifice the great STEREO Tyros 4 sound using just a MONO Bose unit?.
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The best way to use a stereo keyboard in mono is to sum the r and left outputs externally. Most keyboards (including Yamaha do this with internal circuitry) but also include mono pianos,

I don't hear the drastic differences in the mono outputs vs Stereo as Scott on the Tyros. But everything is subjective in the sound field.

Pro concert players are send the FOH a mono signal form their Motifs Whether summing AFTER they get a nice stereo mix for themselves or just using the left out.

The phase issues of the mono out are not worse than those same issues cropping up in a live room for those not sitting in the "sweet spot" and hearing reflections of separate program material. Big rooms never use Stereo for FOH sound systems yet they all have stereo keyboards and effects from guitar racks and efx boxes...go figure
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#296891 - 10/16/10 07:04 PM Re: Will you sacrifice the great STEREO Tyros 4 sound using just a MONO Bose unit?.
J. Larry Offline
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Registered: 12/14/99
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Why doesn't Bose add a stereo unit to their product line to please the stereo buffs? Maybe they'd rather sell two units. I've parked my model II, preferring two powered speakers instead.

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#296892 - 10/16/10 08:07 PM Re: Will you sacrifice the great STEREO Tyros 4 sound using just a MONO Bose unit?.
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Quote:
Originally posted by J. Larry:
Why doesn't Bose add a stereo unit to their product line to please the stereo buffs? Maybe they'd rather sell two units. I've parked my model II, preferring two powered speakers instead.


I am convinced people who buy two Bose units (outside of the compacts which don't have the array of the real units)don't understand the concept of the Bose in the first place....
It is really a waste of $3000. One can buy a hell of a conventional Stereo PA system for that.

[This message has been edited by Kingfrog (edited 10-16-2010).]
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#296893 - 10/16/10 08:20 PM Re: Will you sacrifice the great STEREO Tyros 4 sound using just a MONO Bose unit?.
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Beats me how anyone can come up with these ridiculous statements about mono being superior to stereo, when actually TESTING your statements is so bone-stupidly easy...

Get a favorite CD track. One you are familiar with. Import it into an audio editing program (don't need a fancy one). About every 30 secs or so, select the audio and apply a 'MONO' preset for about 30 seconds. So you'll have a track that switches back and forth from stereo to mono, but doesn't change amplitude (the ears are VERY sensitive to small changes in amplitude).

Now, set up a stereo PA, or play it through your home stereo. Walk around the room. Listen to the track. Can you hear when it changes from mono to stereo from anywhere OTHER than the 'sweet spot'?

You bet your sweet a$$ you can!

Until you are playing rooms SO LARGE that reflected sounds overpower direct ones (and how many of us play those? ) you are going to get SOME stereo effect from anywhere. Is it going to be as good as the 'sweet spot'? Of course not... But it is certainly a LOT more than no effect at all.

Before you make blanket statements about audio, it's best to actually CHECK your assumptions...

Now, this doesn't necessarily answer whether one or the other is BETTER for a particular venue or person, but you can easily check the fallacy that there is no stereo except in the 'sweet spot'.
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#296894 - 10/16/10 09:12 PM Re: Will you sacrifice the great STEREO Tyros 4 sound using just a MONO Bose unit?.
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Or try your Electric pianos...
in Mono vs Stereo.......and listen to the phase/chorus..........then again some people dont care what they sound like.

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