Allthough I've tried many times ,I still could not connect to my pc.I really don't know what I've done wrong.I tried to change the connecting speed from 9600 bauds to 256,000 (I can go more but I didn't take a chance)by gradually tweaking one at a time and restarting .Something even disconfigured my DSL allthough it said that COMM 1 and 2 were free.If someone can help me I'd be more than glad because I'm getting kinda bored having to copy manually every file to a diskette and then into my pc then back again in the X1(50 times a day is a lot of move)Thanks anybody!!

You have to determine whether the PC or the Keyboard is at fault. Having said that I'm not sure which type of PC you have and which operating system. On some IBM compatible computers it is possible to turn the comm ports off via the computer setup. If you are running Win 98 I would right click on the my Computer Icon - go to properties and then to ports - see if Comm1 & comm2 are active with no Yellow ? marks.

Not sure if that helps but its a good place to start.

Jerry

Hi , Jerry .Thank you for answering .You shure look like someone who knows a bit about computers . About my computer , it's a Pentium 4 Celeron, 1,7ghz , 256mg of RAM ,Sound Blaster Live!Value , running on Windows 98SE .I managed to update all the drivers I knew about and could.And about the system properties , everything seems to be clean of any ! & ? . One thing bothers me though , maybe you could be of some assistance .I don't know on which comm , or does it use one ,my DSL hi speed modem (external) works .But the FT program tells me that both Comms 1 and 2 are free.
Could they be sharing ports ,or IRQ slots with other programs and not tell it (I read that somewhere). Or could it be that there is a special tweak that I have to switch on the keyboard that I don't know of .Whew!,that makes a lot of questioning. I hope that the infos I gave you will help in some way because I'm really getting bluesy about it.

You see,I'm working with a company that makes CDs and soundtracks for singers ,also for Karaoke .I often compose the tracks for lyrics that they give me for study.I make compos for myself too.So that makes a whole lot of disks to transfer ! Enough bothering you . Hope to read from you later . Thank you again !

Gino

Gino

I'm not sure about our DSL but mine with Road Runner & previosly with the Tel Company uses a Network card and then is connected via a Cat5 cable which looks like a thick telephone wire. I am all most certain this is the type of connector you are using for your DSL modem.

The computer you have sounds perfectly OK for this task and yes It's possible that the comm port may be sharing a IQR. My guess is that that the keyboard may not be set up correctly - so check with some of the Guys here or Email AJ or Dano to make sure you have the Keyboard set up OK.

There are Generally two Comm ports on most modern computers you have to determine which is Comm 1 & Comm 2 which is a trial and error process if they are not labled. Generally it is best to leave the comm port set at 38000 or less unless you hard ware and software telling you other wise.

So I would recheck your keyboard (SD-1)settings and make sure that is set properly.

Next go into your software on the computer and check the port setting recommended by the software. Then try one port then the other.

Last but not least - Where did you buy your computer and if it was bult by a lcoal or amature they my have put the connecting cable on backward inside the computer (least likely senario) or even left them unconnected.

Jerry

can be somethings wrong in your sd1 before to connect press F6 (midi)and than F10(utility) and select pc...

Thanks Jerry and necdetdoni. I tried both Comms .Comm 1 was jammming my DSL so well that my only option was to re-format the computer(It seems as though it corrupted the driver.I then tried to re-install the DSL software and reboot but it didn't work.). With Comm 2 though,the keyboard does respond with `KEYBOARD TO PC CONNECT ' but sadly , nothing more happens , meaning that there are no files showing in the software and furthermore I have no control on the buttons 'til it says TIME OUT ERROR! then closes.Maybe ,as you mentionned should I try (sorry I did not have the time yet.I will write you back about it later)different bauds speed.The only ones I tried were 9600 and 256,000 because the default speed written was 256,000. Looks like the computer was built by a multi store company named Ordicentre, here in Montreal,a very popular store .I called them to ask about the wiring problem .As they told me,they don't know about the software I use, Ketron FT ,and what it does but I would have to bring them the computer to have it check but that means I would have to stop working and I really can't buy any time these days.You see,I put a time limit garantee on my jobs (I know that's a bad thing to do ,or is it? lol)
They assured me though that their wiring was double-checked before they sell the computers; so that brings me to the keyboard . The only option I have on the X1 (That's the keyboard I have, necdetdoni, and I already did what you wrote me, thanks!) is choosing NONE MAC... and PC which I did .

The bothering question is:
On the keyboard, is there another setting apart of choosing between PC MAC NONE ? Like the speed of the connection ,a true or false comm port, an IRQ or the like.
A guy at Ketron wrote me that the software could have been outdated so I tried to download it again but...nenni! I'm happy that I have people like you guys to help me resolve my problem.THANK YOU AGAIN! I'm really doing my best to follow what you tell me. Jerry , I will try to change the bauds speed sequencially and see what it does but I'm a little bit scared about having to re-re-format again . I can't afford the time right now to re-install all the work I did. But I'm willing to try one or two more times before I forget about that software.
HEY GUYS, THANKS AGAIN ! See you later!


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Sorry for the long letter...

you should not have to reformate your drive. You can allways remove or reinstall drivers if nessary. Can you fax or email your setup page for your X-1 for the serial port setup

Jerry

Sorry Jerry ,I don't understand what you want .Could it be that you want to see the open program ? In that case I can tell you how it is when I open it.Here:

By default, the port setup shows :
Comm 1
Comm 2 checked
Comm 3 greyed
Comm 4 greyed

Bauds: 9600
19200
38400
57600
115200 checked
Disk info greyed
Exit

This is how it showed when I first installed it.
Now , when I press on Connect(after rebooting the Pc) ,The X1 shows :
X1 TO PC CONNECT in the screen ,the software connect button then changes to Disconnect but it doesn't show anything in the upper window .And furthermore,allthough I waited for about more than a minute ,still nothing shows .Then , after two minutes or so comes a small pop up window showing: Time out error! and when I click on the OK button it has , everything closes .And all that time I couldn't even click on any button.It's seems as though the program had froze .And the X1 still is on the X1 TO PC CONNECT state.I then have to reboot the keyboard which resets itself to none even though it is still plugged to the pc .I think that normally , the keyboard should stay on the PC setup after rebooting .

Now since it wouldn't work with the Comm 2 setup ,I tried to change into connecting Comm 1,and that's then I lost my DSL driver. I tried everything I could to reinstall it ,with the Sympatico high speed modem CD but it jammed everything.I even reinstalled Windows but nothing changed. Looks to me that both are incompatible or that the modem uses my comm port 1 exclusively.As with Comm 2,there could be a problem with the speed of the transmission.I didn't have time to try it yet but I shure will try again.Hope it won't do the same thing.Unless there is another solution.Please tell me more .I desperately need to know.Thanks again.

Are you using an added card with serial port, or an USB to serial adapter??

Pehraps the cable is not the good one...

Hi Dan sorry for the delay .Well the modem I use is a DSL hi speed with a connection like a big telephone cable and my interface cable was sold to me by a ketron specialist .It's a cable with a small round plug that fits in the keyboard and the other end plugs in a serial port of the computer. The problem is I can't find the right speed for bauds selection .I tried all the speeds they showed but none will do .The keyboard responds by showing the famous phrase X1 TO PC CONNECT ...AND THAT'S ALL I GET! I thought that it was a bug in the program .Everybody I talked with none have that problem . Is there another place in the keyboard where I can configure the connection.Like true port or something.Or is it in the PC ? I really don't know what to do anymore! I'm .....blocked! In the PC ,I got more speeds to work with but I'm affraid that something turns wrong and I can't afford to lose what I've done yet(it's backed up anyway) since I don't have much time to re-load evrything and start over again.I called the Ketron servicing office where I live but they don't have the time to check it .I wrote to a guy in Ketron but he doesn't seem to know the solution either. Bugging bugging !!! My PC is working top shape with everything else.No problem whatsoever! What more can I do? Anyway thank you for trying to help me .If we can find a solution maybe it will help others too. Thank you Dan! I won't give up!

[This message has been edited by ketronlover (edited 07-31-2003).]

Hi Ketronlover

I have X4 module, and I connect it with my laptop. I have purchased original cable from the store. If you want, i can send you pin connections.
However, my connection works fine since first time I connect. Maybe because on my COM port nothing was installed before. Maybe you have to reinstall your PC, reserve COM1 for Ketron, then install DSL modem on COM2.

About the speed of a serial communication, you must have the 2 devices connected using the same speed for comunicate. You can select it on the computer, but not in the keyboard.
In fact, the keyboard adapt it speed to the speed you choosed in the computer.

You have to test on another computer. If it doesn't work, ask to your ketron deeler to test this cable with anoter keyboard...

I think you will have a good diagnostik.

Hi guys,Thank you for helping me find the solution.

Dan ,I will try it on another computer as you said .Will let you know if it works.

Ketron_user , you may be right there .As soon as I finish my work I might try to reconfigure my PC but it could take a little while . I have 35 songs to arrange first because, as I earlier said ,time is important to me and right now I have no time. I'll let you know if the other option didn't work and I have to re-start again. Thank you!

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Hi guys,Thank you for helping me find the solution.

Dan ,I will try it on another computer as you said .Will let you know if it works.

Ketron_user , you may be right there .As soon as I finish my work I might try to reconfigure my PC but it could take a little while . I have 35 songs to arrange first because, as I earlier said ,time is important to me and right now I have no time. I'll let you know if the other option didn't work and I have to re-start again. Thank you!

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Hi guys ! Tried to Install on another computer.Didn't work either. The only solution left is to reconfigure the PC and reserve comm 1 or 2 for the program. I wonder if I can do it without reinstalling everything. Any answers Please?

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tell to your dealer (or a friend) to test your cable in his KETRON keyboard.

It might be just that ! Thanks Dan! I'll be back to you soon .

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Hi ! I won't be able to have it check because the technician is taking his vacation for two weeks . I'll let you know when he comes back (unless I find something in the meanwhile) See ya! And thanks again!

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Try setting com port to 2, and restart the PC and keyboard after the cable is connected. I have got it to work on VEGA. On the VEGA, you have to go to the MIDI menu and set the computer to PC or MAC. Is there such a menu on SD1?

Hi Nick and thanks for trying to help me.I have an X1 keyboard and I already tried what you mentionned and it didn't work.I Even tried to switch the cable from comm1 to comm2 and did all the sequence after that .Nil... Could be that the cable itself is badly routed...I wonder if they make this cable with a USB connection .Maybe I wouldn't have this problem .'Anybody knows about that?'. I think that, even though it says that both comm ports are free ,they are occupied.

Well, lots of questions unanswered,lots of solutions ineffective and two weeks later,I'm still stuck with that problem. My technician is on vacation for another week. The cable does not have a guaranty . I don't have the configuration of the routing inside the cable.I've been through lot of misfortune lately so sorry for the complaining but I can't stop thinking that there's something I haven't thought about doing. If you did read upperly ,you now know that there's a bunch of good friends who tried to give me solutions .You're part of them now and I tell you all ''I won't give up until it's settled''. Thank you again !!!

Makes me think as if it was a war game between the ennemy, DR CABLE and little ol' US! LOLLLLL !!! Usually ,the good ones win!!! See ya!
Gino 'The FT cable fighter'!

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Hi.I had the same problem ,the only way to resopve it is changing te controller of the mainboard of the instrument,because the first realase of it doesn't works cross pc.
I'm from Italy my email is - marzaroli2@libero.it.
bye

Thanks a lot balinferrari, my friend ! Do you mean that I have to take this one out and put another controler or just by updating : You know ,changing from release 03 to 04 With a diskette ? I am happy to read of you ! Please answer back !


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[This message has been edited by ketronlover (edited 09-05-2003).]

What version of Windows are you running? I was told on another forum you can't run the Ketron XFT program with Windows XP.

I have Winfows 98SE.I also have Sound Blaster Live!Value.Could it be that my sound card occupies the free ports without notice? Thank you

I had to put it away and change it.I think that the newest instuments use the new controller that doesn't give problems,this is the reason why only somebody has this problem..hope you solve your problem, excuse my bad english!

In order to isolate the problem, you can do one of the following:

1. Try someone else's cable.
2. Use another PC with your keyboard
3. Use another keyboard with your PC

If its not a setup problem, then you can figure out the problem this way. The cable can probably be tested with a continuity tester for electric wires.

It's funny ,but when they sold me the keyboard,the cable was specifically made for the X1,to plug with the FT program. I think i've been had by the reseller.Anyway ,I'll call to see if they can do something about it. Thank you friend!

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Thanks for the tips.I'll try for sure.Let you know what worked and what didn't.



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