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#297970 - 10/28/10 01:30 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
gilbert Offline
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Ian,
If it is,its a bit ripe for him to talk about credibility.

P.s it looks like the tyros4 does have reserve voice allocation

Gilbert.

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#297971 - 10/28/10 02:03 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by gilbert:
Ian,
If it is,its a bit ripe for him to talk about credibility.

P.s it looks like the tyros4 does have reserve voice allocation

Gilbert.



Well, it's only one person's opinion...and it seems to be one of the few against the more prevalent good impressions.

Yes, Yamaha Canada just informed me that the Tyros4 (and T3) have reserve voice allocation.

My palms are getting sweaty...

Ian
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#297972 - 10/28/10 02:21 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
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Should we start compiling the mob with pitch forks and such ALA "Ketron With hunt"

just had to

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#297973 - 10/28/10 02:29 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by frankieve:
Should we start compiling the mob with pitch forks and such ALA "Ketron With hunt"

just had to




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#297974 - 10/28/10 04:50 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
ok gang. I finally had a chance to test out & reproduce 'LIVE' (via Skype) the T4 polyphony issue with a good friend (in the UK) that owns a Tyros4.

While in A1 auto accomp mode, with split point set at F#2, I first had him select "Vocal Foxtrot" from the Ballroom Section, and Left Voice 'on' and assigned to piano, and RH voices 1, 2, and 3 all 'on' and assigned to different voices. Then he played a Bb7 chord in the LH, and then immediately after playing it, used the sustain pedal to keep it sounding, followed by playing both left and right hands together in the right section of the keyboard as follows: LH: D3-F3-G3-Bb3-D4 and RH: F4-G4-Bb4 (total 8 notes). When this was played there were no polyphony dropouts at all in either the style or the actual notes played on the keyboard. Only When 'one more' note (D5) was added to the RH chord to make a total of 9 notes played simultaneously, did a vocal dropout occur in the style. The moment the 9th note was taken out, the vocals in the style could be heard again.

I can only conclude that unless your playing style requires 9 notes played simultaneously in the RH section of the keyboard, this should not be a problem.


Additional note: It appears that only the Tyros4's new 'Vocal' voices were affected by this phenomenon, as no other voices within the style dropped out.


Scott

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#297975 - 10/28/10 04:56 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Great news Scott ....did you order one as of yet?

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#297976 - 10/28/10 05:01 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Scott..so that means Leigh was correct..

If the vocal sounds are similar to Roland's ..they may be 3 or 4 cross faded sounds...and a sustain pedal could easily pick up the velocity overlap..and cause a problem with polyphony...Most likely the newest added sounds that require 3 or 4 cross fades..may be the least priority reserve..Ian mentioned that the Tyros3 and 4 have this now...Maybe not quite as good as the Roland format..
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#297977 - 10/28/10 05:04 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Great news Scott ....did you order one as of yet?


Great news!!! He confirmed a problem...
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#297978 - 10/28/10 06:00 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
That's wy the T3 did not do it..those vocals must have a lot of oscilators triggered?

Actually for what these TOTL arranger cost they shold all have 256 Poly anyways.

Lee S.

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#297979 - 10/28/10 06:18 PM Re: Tyros4 Polyphony is Terrible!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
Great news!!! He confirmed a problem...


Can this problem be rectified thru a software OS version upgrade? Or mainly just a Style predicament.



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