It doesn't have to say Roland on the keyboard..or Casio, Yamaha, Korg, Ketron..even Magnus..

Personally , if a keyboard does most of what I want..the company is secondary..

What I want is 76 , playable keys..

I want after touch..

A sequencer that can handle SMF's the way they should sound..

Edit functions that work in real time ..easily..

Expandable sound (Rom)..

Drawbar organ..

Great Bread and butter sounds..

A scat sound close to what I now use..

Style morphing in real time..

A chord sequencer..

A great harmonizer and great mic inputs..

A MP3/wave player that works great..

Monitor (video) output.

A media player that will play CDG files too..

A D beam type of interface to play accent instruments or pads..

A guitar voicing feature that allows the proper guitar voice played on keys.

An multi-track recording feature..

A complete USB audio/midi interface..

A keyboard that can also function as a complete midi controller,

with separate control of internal sounds..

A keyboard that handles conversion styles properly..

A quality built unit that would last..


I must say..right now I have most of the above covered..but it takes 2 or 3 keyboards to do so..

Roland G70, Lionstracs Media Station..and a 76 key midi controller..


Now if a company came out with all these features..
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It would not matter if it was a Casio, or any other brand..

Amen to that brother

Dennis


PS: All the other stuff you listed would be in my wishlist too

Well considering you only have choices between Casio, Yamaha, and Korg...with Ketron's Audya still in development, and the Mediastaion not really an arranger...I'd say Korg would probably have more of a chance in filling your requirements (Yamaha's lack of 76 being the main reason for exclusion).

Personally, I wouldn't want half of those features...it would take away from the fun of actually playing, and put the instrument somewhere between a big musical toy, a Karaoke machine, and an over-sized I-Pod.

What next..a built in cell phone?

Let's see...

Great sounds (and effects).

Flexible OS.

Great styles.

Great style creator.

Great third party support.

Light weight.

Reputable company.

Hey, I already have all those...PSR-S910.

Ian

Hey, my favorite song, Gary...I remember, as a little boy, going to see this with my Mum...she had homemade treats in her pockets, as we couldn't afford the concession stand.

Still brings a tear to my eye.

The original version of the song was sung by Cliff Edwards, but this version by Satchmo is terrific.

Ian

Fran,
Garys post is very approriate,dream on Fran and good luck.

It is said, that dreams sometimes come true.

Gilbert.

Ian, you mean "auto play" and a "melody line".....What was I thinking?..

Actually, my friend, I don't know what you were thinking...but, I do know what works best, and is the most fun for me, and brings in the $$$$ as well...melody line and chords, with the appropriate (and tasteful) embellishments to both, of course.

Ian

Most of the things I find detrimental to a great keyboard...

That's cool!

We all have our preferences...I'm very happy with mine.

Ian

Stick a real Chord Sequencer in it, and I'll buy ANYTHING!

Yep, good point. Add a chord sequencer to my list as well.

I'd like to have one too.

Ian

Fran,
+1...absolutely.
What you described is a true PRO Arranger workstation.

Closest right now is PA2XPRO (IMHO, not just beacase I have one, G-70-yes, but gone). But it misses some of those items.

The problem is...most of the arranger buyers are not like us...thus Yamaha etc cater to the home player that does not want/need all that.

There needs to be 2 catagory of arrangers. The current one and 1 from the PRO division of Yamaha Korg, etc.

Lee S.

you wont see that anytime soon......
grab what you can for your needs now, and be a better player.....theres more then enough out there to do that now...

as Elvis said....

"A Little Less Conversation"


and a little more playing



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-29-2010).]

As Fat Albert said.."Hey Hey Hey"

this is my thread...conversation continue..

I'd rather hear arranger KB players actually PLAY....Not Converse...

What Fran described is also very much a high end home keyboard, much like Roland's VIMA...all the Karaoke features, and other goodies, that will compete with home theatre systems, and 3-D televisions.

Korg is one of the last hold-outs, and, there is no guarantee the next PA iteration will be even based on the PA2XPro...it may be an upgraded PA-800?

Making 2 arrangers, one "pro" and the other "home" may turn out to be more of a burden than a benefit.

Compared to digital pianos, workstations/synthesizers, organs (like the Nord C and Hammond XB-series), the 100% "pro" arranger market is quite tiny.

Only Ketron and Korg right now...next year, maybe neither.

Ian

C'mon, Ian... how could you POSSIBLY want a Chord Sequencer? Yamaha don't make one, which DEFINITIVELY proves there is no need for one at all...

Be careful, my friend. You would not want to upset the Yamaha zealots that find ANY request for a feature Yamaha don't have as an affront to their religion...

Best of luck PROVING to Yamaha that this is a needed feature. Let me know once you organize that pan-internet poll, and I'll sign my name to it, despite the obvious futility of it. Yamaha have seen what a great feature this is since it first came out on a Roland donkey's years ago... But obviously, it doesn't appeal to the One Finger Chord set, Yamaha's 'home keyboard' base, who would not benefit from its' ability to allow you to play better with BOTH hands... got to play well with ONE hand before this becomes a useful feature!

Oh, but I do, I do want a chord sequencer...however, I do not need a chord sequencer.

I remember the one on the old E-70...it was quite handy.

Ian

I want a 76 PSR. But I don't NEED it...

Doesn't stop the zealots from rejoicing that my WANTS are unfulfilled.

I can't believe you are reduced to playing semantics. You have really gotten desperate to score points, lately, haven't you? Mention Yamaha, Ian mentions Roland. Mention Yamaha, Ian mentions Ketron. Mention Yamaha, Ian mentions Korg. Heck, if I were desperate to distract my readers from REAL issues, that's what I'd do, too!

Anything... to get the poster off topic...!

Mmmm...again, just who are all these zealots Diki?

Names please?

There must be how many...two?

You playing the victim is so droll.

But, Halloween is just around the corner, so I guess whatever works...

Mentioning Roland would never be a diversion...just a lesson, or perhaps, a reminder, in how not to market/sell arrangers.

Just because it doesn't suit you, doesn't mean I intend to stop.

It's too much fun reading your responses.

Ian