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#300128 - 12/01/10 11:28 AM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
btweengigs Offline
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Registered: 09/09/02
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With registrations, performances, Music Finder, etc....going from song to song is seamless with little or no downtime. That is a real plus and critical when playing for dancers.
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#300129 - 12/01/10 11:45 AM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
Scottyee Offline
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Originally posted by btweengigs:
With registrations, performances, Music Finder, etc....going from song to song is seamless with little or no downtime.


I like grouping songs that are able to 'work together' as a medley in REG Bank Files (1-8). Some of my medley themes include:

1) featured artist/composer
2) seasonal (spring,summer,fall, winter)
3) holiday specific
4) genre/style specific
5) gig venue specific
6) decade/era Songs
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#300130 - 12/01/10 11:54 AM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
Well...I started with a plan and simple wurlitzer organ. Bass on the pedals, LH rythm (on your wn)..no drums at the time.

Then we got a sideman (drum machine) wow, thought we were in heaven...then later came the accompyments. The accomapyments were not as good as we have with todays arrangers , but pretty good.

The whole idea was to play music you loved, sound pretty good without having to be a PRO musician...of course the better you are the better you sound.

So, for me the arranger is the substitute for a high end organ, since that's not an option anymore (cost and availability).

I don't sing, I play only music I like, no playing out...just have fun with music on the arranger.

Still...my opinion..if you are a top notch highly trained expert musician...even if you want/like an arrager..you don't need one!
Especially if you are a good singer.

They really were designed for the home keyboard players.

Lee S.
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#300131 - 12/01/10 11:56 AM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
TP123 Offline
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Posts: 243
Loc: Fla. / Nashville
Scott.... did you get some new gig gathering demographic info for a major OEM?

LOL

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#300132 - 12/01/10 12:20 PM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
spalding1968 Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 1264
Loc: United Kingdom
for me its the completness and flexibility. If i want to play in a band i can reduce the arranger to a straight synth/piano instantly. If i am backing a choir i can play a full accompanimant instantly or remix entire songs on the spot live and try out new arrangments in seconds. And iof i just want to jam by myself i can do that just as easily. It is the complete instrument. some people get really tunnel visioned about arrangers but to me its a keyboard and then some !

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#300133 - 12/01/10 12:26 PM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 3944
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Originally posted by Nedim:
Actually that is the whole answer to your question...there is nothing special about them.


Nedim,

Ha.... but what about a Qranger, thats different, isn't it???
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#300134 - 12/01/10 12:27 PM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
Tony Hughes Offline
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Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
Nedim,

Ha.... but what about a Qranger, thats different, isn't it??? Anyway where the hell have you been, with Diki!

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#300135 - 12/01/10 01:33 PM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by TP123:
Scott.... did you get some new gig gathering demographic info for a major OEM?
LOL




Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
I like grouping songs that are able to 'work together' as a medley in REG Bank Files (1-8). Some of my medley themes include:

1) featured artist/composer
2) seasonal (spring,summer,fall, winter)
3) holiday specific
4) genre/style specific
5) gig venue specific
6) decade/era Songs



Almost forgot to mention the terrific utility program " Tyros Registration File Composer " written by Kim Winther, I use which makes compiling, swapping, and mixing individual REGs (1-8) from one REG Bank file to another. A wonderful tool for assigning multiple song entries into a collection of different themed REG bank files. A big thanks to Kim Winther.

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#300136 - 12/01/10 01:48 PM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
and here is another Yamaha 'REG Editor' that I like to use when mixing, compiling individual REG (1-8) entries from one REG Bank File to another. It's perhaps my favorite because it's got the most options. Many thanks to my good german friend Heiko for writing & sharing this.

PSREG
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#300137 - 12/02/10 04:35 AM Re: What's the big deal about Arrangers?!
Nedim Offline
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Registered: 05/13/08
Posts: 1144
Loc: Staten Island, NYC
I have been around...almost in hell, everyday Emergency, Kidney Sones, uuuuuhhhhhhhhhh!!!
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