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#301027 - 12/16/10 10:53 AM Tyros keys, Tyros users
arranger_yes_pc_no Offline
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does the Tyros have semi-weighted keys, or is it the same crap as found in my psr-3000 ?

I love the keyboard and I have to stick to Yamaha because of the 'chord-track', but I was wondering about an used Tyros 2 or 3

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#301028 - 12/16/10 10:55 AM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
Impuls Offline
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Read some reviews and you will know.

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#301029 - 12/16/10 11:13 AM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
arranger_yes_pc_no Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Impuls:
Read some reviews and you will know.

Impuls


what a stupid reply....if you don't know then find something else to do

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#301030 - 12/16/10 01:49 PM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
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IMHO, Tyros 2,3, and 4 has got far better (more responsive) semi weighted synth key action compared to PSR3000. As much as I appreciate the high quality sound of Yamaha's mid range arrangers (PSR3000, S910, etc), I find the key action spongy and rather sluggish, especially when I want to play quick passages & runs.

That said, coming from being an acoustic pianist, no portable arranger keyboard approaches the feel of a fully weighted hammer action of an acoustic grand, but for arranger keyboard, I prefer the semi weighted responsive action of the Tyros 2,3, and 4, especially for emulating a full range of instrument sounds.

With the advent of super articulation voices, Yamaha has further improved the Tyros keyboard action which gives us the ability to better play & control key velocity pressure to activate the up to 7 levels of different sound variation of a single Super Articulation instrument's note. Hope this answers your question. - Scott
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#301031 - 12/16/10 02:37 PM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
trident Offline
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They are different for sure, not sure about "weighted"

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#301032 - 12/16/10 02:49 PM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
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The Tyros2/3 (and T4) use a new action, called FSX, which is different than the one in the original Tyros.

The S-910 and PSR-3000 use a much lighter action (which I prefer) and they also do not support aftertouch, which the Tyros does permit.

If you don't like the PSR action, then the FSX should be fine.

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#301033 - 12/16/10 03:32 PM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
Stephenm52 Offline
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I come from piano background, I found it very uncomfortable to play my PSR 3000 or s900 series as a piano...........although Tyros 2 and 4 are far from a true piano action, I can actually play a bit of solo piano much easier using the Tyros keybed.

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#301034 - 12/17/10 02:02 AM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
arranger_yes_pc_no Offline
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wow, thank you guys, I could not have hoped for better: real pianist who give me their impression. I am studying piano although unfortunately, like for many of us, having a real piano is very impractical.

I do have a fully weighted keyboard that I connect to my computer, but it so happens that I really like Yamaha arrangers and they keep me away from the computer (a good thing!) and focused entirely on making music.
I can't connect the weighted keyboard to the PSR easily because I play in a small room and have to arrange the keyboards in a certain way.

So learning that the Tyros has a far better, semi-weighted action, is really interesting,I think I'll go for an used Tyros 2.

Scottyee, yes I agree about the sounds, quite frankly I think right now Yamaha arrangers offer the best sounds, and I own 3 Eastwest libraries so I am not easily impressed!

Just a last question guys, the Tyros has a better keybed than the psr-910 too, yes?

Thanks again!

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#301035 - 12/17/10 02:05 AM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
arranger_yes_pc_no Offline
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Registered: 07/16/09
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Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
The Tyros2/3 (and T4) use a new action, called FSX, which is different than the one in the original Tyros.

The S-910 and PSR-3000 use a much lighter action (which I prefer) and they also do not support aftertouch, which the Tyros does permit.

If you don't like the PSR action, then the FSX should be fine.

Ian


really insteresting background info, thank you my friend.

I think I have heard about this FSX keyboard, if I am not mistaken, Yamaha uses it on the Motif workstation....if so, a Tyros 2 is the keyboard I have to get.

Thanks!

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#301036 - 12/17/10 02:22 AM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
arranger_yes_pc_no Offline
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Registered: 07/16/09
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wow, I was just googling and the FSX keyboard is, indeed, the same keyboard as used on the Motif 76 !


FANTASTIC, thanks to all. Tyros 2 here I come



[This message has been edited by arranger_yes_pc_no (edited 12-17-2010).]

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#301037 - 12/22/10 06:15 AM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
arranger_yes_pc_no Offline
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Registered: 07/16/09
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got my Tyros 2 today

what a fantastic instrument, I am also impressed by the audio multitracker!

not to mention the styles and sounds, I have PC with some great sample libraries but what's still great about the hardware keyboards is that you can make music as soon as you get them out of the box and keep focused on the music for hours. Computers are the opposite of that.

And the keys are great, the only think I miss is the 76 keys keyboard for some piano pieces. Other than that, the Tyros 2 is a fantastic instrument. I know it's not the latest model but it's still a fantastic instrument and a significant upgrade from the PSR3000, although it grew on me.

Thanks for all the help

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#301038 - 12/22/10 06:48 PM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
kbrkr Offline
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Originally posted by arranger_yes_pc_no:
what a stupid reply....if you don't know then find something else to do


LOL....I just loved your reply arranger_yes_pc_no. This really made me smile!!! haha
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#301039 - 12/23/10 02:19 AM Re: Tyros keys, Tyros users
arranger_yes_pc_no Offline
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Registered: 07/16/09
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Originally posted by kbrkr:
LOL....I just loved your reply arranger_yes_pc_no. This really made me smile!!! haha


well it's like you see an homeless person and you tell them : 'hey did you know that there's lots of homes around ?'

lol...

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