SYNTH ZONE
Visit The Bar For Casual Discussion
Page 4 of 14 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 13 14 >
Topic Options
#301462 - 12/24/10 12:45 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
Nigel Offline
Admin

Registered: 06/01/98
Posts: 6483
Loc: Ventura CA USA
Quote:
Originally posted by beachbum:
Donny, you post too much and you are too opinionated... You know the Casio $79 keyboard rules, get over yourself......


ROTFLMAO

Top
#301463 - 12/24/10 03:33 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
Taike Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 2814
Loc: Xingyi, Guizhou (China)
Quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
Well, I'll chime in ... I just opened up my S-910, and the voice processor is actually worse than I remembered. I am SO spoiled by the TC unit in my pa800, I might not keep this thing. I have a different plan in mind, so I won't be hasty, but if i played out as much as I used to, I could NEVER use the 910 as a standalone voice processor. The tones are good, the rhythms are what I expected, the keys still feel the same (spongy)... and I can't get it to play any of the MP3 files that my Korg plays ... I guess I have to actually READ the darn book for change Grrrrr!

Head to head:

Sound: edge Korg
rhythms: edge Yamaha
speaker power: edge Korg
vocal effects: edge Korg
O/S: edge Yamaha

Nothing has changed between these two powerhouses since I was more active on the zone a few years ago. I WANT to like this 910, but I have my standards to think of ( voice ). I'll post more after I actually use the darn thing, but my priority was always vocals first, and the Korg has that nailed. I'll try my standalone VP using the stereo inputs into the s910 and see if the speakers can even handle the power. Fingers crossed.
PC aside - Merry Christmas! (that's what I celebrate, and I love to share the joy I feel!)


You're so insecure!

------------------
Bo pen nyang
_________________________
最猖獗的人权侵犯 者讨论其他国 家的人权局势而忽略本国严重的人权 问题是何等伪善。

Top
#301464 - 12/24/10 04:19 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
Irishacts Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 11/18/01
Posts: 1631
Loc: Ireland
Here's an alternative view.

Is Yamaha greatly to blame for the demise of the Arranger market and it's clear and obvious decline compared to the work they and others do on Workstations.

They obviously built the Tyros 4 (and previous models) with the older gentleman in mind which is why they are so easy to operate, and equally as popular with people in this age bracket. The flip side to that however is the clear lack of interest from younger generations, and the clear and obvious decline of the Arranger market overall.

(My next comment is not a pi$$ing contest... just an alternative view.)

KORG on the other hand are the only ones trying to do the complete opposite. Their Arranger keyboards are just as technically advanced as their Workstations in many ways and are aimed at a very broad spectrum of users young and old. They also adapt their products to certain markets which is why Eastern music is pretty much entirely dominated by KORG Arrangers at this point.

It's only food for though guys. Don't take anything I'm saying too serious.

Regards
James

Top
#301465 - 12/24/10 04:32 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by beachbum:
Donny, you post too much and you are too opinionated... You know the Casio $79 keyboard rules, get over yourself......


Sting thanx for ruining my christmas


[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 12-24-2010).]

Top
#301466 - 12/24/10 06:27 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
Uncle Dave Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Quote:
Originally posted by Taike:
You're so insecure!


You know, that's partly true! I ruined my marriage, I put on all the weight I lost a few years ago, I got careless and dropped my favorite keyboard, and to top it all off - Ford recalled my Windstar for a cracked rear axel and it's going to take 3 MONTHS to fix! I'm stuck in a Taurus for the rest of winter - no room for my stuff, my daughters can't drive it because they're under 25, and I'm going out of my mind trying to get the stinkin' seat adjusted to be comfy! I LOVED that car ... had it for 8 years - longest I ever had a new car, and it was paid off for the last 3 years ... that's a treat too!

So, yes - I'm insecure a little, but believe me ... I'm not so far gone that I will take this s910 to a paying job. It's going back in the box today. I'd rather have faith in my repair man and use a little TLC when I unload!

Hey - it's Christmas Eve! My kids will be here all day cooking loads of fish and home made cookies ... mmmmmm. I LOVE Christmas.
_________________________
No longer monitoring this forum. Please visit www.daveboydmusic.com for contact info

Top
#301467 - 12/24/10 06:30 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Dave we all make mistakes, ...it's how you pick yourself up and continue on life's journey that matters...
I know you can do it buddy!
Merry Christmas


btw..Where did you buy the s910 ...store....private?

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 12-24-2010).]

Top
#301468 - 12/24/10 07:09 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
ianmcnll Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Irishacts:
They obviously built the Tyros 4 (and previous models) with the older gentleman in mind which is why they are so easy to operate, and equally as popular with people in this age bracket. The flip side to that however is the clear lack of interest from younger generations, and the clear and obvious decline of the Arranger market overall.

(KORG on the other hand are the only ones trying to do the complete opposite. Their Arranger keyboards are just as technically advanced as their Workstations in many ways and are aimed at a very broad spectrum of users young and old.


Well said James, and mostly accurate.

You must also take into consideration that Korg do not make entry level arrangers...I would consider the PA-500 a mid range instrument.

Yamaha (and Casio) completely dominate the entry level...most kids can't afford a PA-500, but they can swing a Casio or low end PSR.

Just like the old trick with the type (make) of cars used in Driving Schools, the students quite often buy a car from the same manufacturer.

Low end 76/88 note Casio and Yamaha piano based arrangers are often purchased with the beginning piano student in mind...Casio offers nothing in the higher ranger, but Yamaha does; CVP, or Tyros, or PSR-S-series...and of course, the Motif, which is often seen in videos and on TV

I also believe the way things are set up with Korg and Yamaha, that it allows them both to co-exist in a similar market, and also enables each company to access areas in which the other doesn't tread.

As far as I know, the competition is not as aggressive between Korg and Yamaha, as it was, let's say, between Korg, or Yamaha, and Roland.

Personally, I feel there is a mutual respect between Korg and Yamaha...maybe still left over from Yamaha's financial bail out of, and technology sharing with, Korg some time ago?

Think of it...Korg doesn't offer a CVP competitor, and Yamaha doesn't make arrangers with the advanced editing (sequencer and sounds) seen on Korg's.

Just a thought.

Ian
_________________________
Yamaha Tyros4, Yamaha MS-60S Powered Monitors(2), Yamaha CS-01, Yamaha TQ-5, Yamaha PSR-S775.

Top
#301469 - 12/24/10 07:33 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
What about the rumors that Yamaha & Korg are one in the same company feeding off what the other doesn't have....Hmmmmm good strategy

Top
#301470 - 12/24/10 07:44 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
zuki Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4723
I'm still waiting for my parts to fix my 800 yellow blotches (liquid crystal release - screen - both keyboards). Hopefully, it'll be soon 'cause it's only been 4 months now

Even with that, very satisfied with my Korg and look forward to anything down the pike from them??
_________________________
Live: Korg PA4X/EV Everse 8s/Senn 935/K&M stand

Studio: Korg PA4X/Yamaha DGX670/Nord 6D73/Boss BR900CD/Tascam DP24SD/MTM Iloud/Sony C80/AGK 214/ATEM Mini Pro switcher/K&M stand

Top
#301471 - 12/24/10 07:51 AM Re: Is Yamaha taking down all other Arrangers One By One ....little by little.....
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
I'm still waiting for my parts to fix my 800 yellow blotches (liquid crystal release - screen - both keyboards). Hopefully, it'll be soon 'cause it's only been 4 months now

Even with that, very satisfied with my Korg and look forward to anything down the pike from them??


backordered this long??

Top
Page 4 of 14 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 13 14 >

Moderator:  Admin, Diki, Kerry 



Help keep Synth Zone Online