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#305234 - 11/28/07 12:24 PM technics kn7000 to tyros 2
roger brandon bradbury Offline
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Registered: 07/29/03
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Loc: Willersey, Broadway
Hi ! I am to use the tyros 2 instead of my technics kn7000 for performances next year. I have many songs that I have sequenced and saved to my 1 gig s/d card. Is there any way I could transfer to the tyros 2 and play the songs ? Thank you. Roger B

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#305235 - 12/02/07 12:07 PM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
Giovanni Offline
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Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 489
Loc: Norwich Norfolk England
Hi Roger , I also have a Kn7000 and a T2 .
It goes without saying that both brands are first class and that the T2 has many fine improvements .
The great disappointment for me is that it is not possible to easily convert the "Great Technic Song specific Styles " and i have lots of them, over to the Yamaha T2 format ...the result is very poor !!! and certainly not good enough to play on my gigs .
That is why I've had the T2 for over a year and never done a gig with the instrument .

Regards .............Giovanni
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#305236 - 12/02/07 12:44 PM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Roger,
unfortunately they're really not compatible.
Drums & sounds differ , the editing would be a nightmare.

The only way you'd get a Technics song to play back 100% acurately would be if you recorded the songs as mp3's.

best wishes
Rikki


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#305237 - 12/03/07 01:55 PM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
KeithB Offline
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Registered: 01/29/03
Posts: 317
Loc: Melbourne AUSTRALIA
Is it not possible to save the Technics sequence as an SMF file (on the KN7000)? My understanding is that then could be read by the PSR/Tyros family of keyboards as a midi file. Not sure as I haven't done this, though I too do have the Tyros 2 and KN7000.
Keith

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#305238 - 12/03/07 10:45 PM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Keith,
you're correct. A Technics song file can be converted to midifile format, but it would still need a fair bit of tweaking. I can't remember the process as it's been a few years since I last tried it, but from memory, the converted song possibly didn't even sound the same played back on a Technics, once the conversion to midifile format was done.

As far as playing it back on a T2, individual drum velocities could well be incorrect, & you'd probably have to change volumes & maybe even sounds on the other tracks etc

I used to do a bit of midifile to style conversion between my Technics & PSR.
It's certainly not as bad as trying to convert a Technics style to Yamaha format, but still not hassle free. It would be an awful lot of work doing a large number of them.

best wishes
Rikki


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#305239 - 12/04/07 01:43 AM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
roger brandon bradbury Offline
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Registered: 07/29/03
Posts: 123
Loc: Willersey, Broadway
Thank you all for your advice. It seems a shame that it is not possible to convert my sequenced songs on my 3 1 gb sd cards. I love the suggestion from Giovanni to use the Tyros 2 for home use only. I think that is what I will do for the time being. I paid only £1650 for the keyboard only, seems the price is now very reasonable. Roger B. Best wishes to you all for Christmas and the approaching New Year.
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#305240 - 12/04/07 01:02 PM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Roger,
if you really have some songs that you luv on your Technics, try recording them as an mp3. THe Kn7 actually came with software to do this.
I still regret not having recorded some of the songs ( as mp3's) I'd put together as backing tracks , I could have still used them to play along to.

best wishes
Rikki

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#305241 - 01/17/08 05:30 PM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
[QUOTE]Originally posted by roger brandon bradbury:
[B]Hi ! I am to use the tyros 2 instead of my technics kn7000 for performances next year. I have many songs that I have sequenced and saved to my 1 gig s/d card. Is there any way I could transfer to the tyros 2 and play the songs ? Thank you. Roger B

I have made the change from a KN7000 to a Tyros 2 and now a S900. With the almost unlimited Yamaha styles available why try to convert Technics styles. I have been making changes in the Yamaha styles -- Instruments, volumes, effects and the results are rewarding.

Let go of your KN7000 thinking and you will find many great styles in the Tyros 2. Both keyboards have great features – find the ones in Yamaha and you will take the keyboard on a job. I grant you this, the change over is a nightmare – I am glad I did it, it has opened a new world of thinking and creating for me.

John C.

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#305242 - 02/04/08 10:13 AM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
coca Offline
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Registered: 06/10/05
Posts: 100
Hi,

I used to have the Tyros 1/2. I want to try out the Technics KN-7000. What is your take on the Technics KN-7000 vs. the Tyros 1 or 2. Thanks in advance.

coca

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#305243 - 02/04/08 11:53 AM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
Giovanni Offline
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Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 489
Loc: Norwich Norfolk England
Hi John , I'm very interested when you say an almost unlimited range of Yamaha styles available ????

I would be delighted if you could point me in the right direction !!

Whilst it goes without saying the Yamaha styles are good , I've not come across any that are "style specific"

I.e Glenn Miller hits (with all the proper intros and endings )

New York New York

You don't have to say you love me (dusty springfield hit )

Land of hope and Glory (last night of the proms )

Dambuster march (with explosion sound effects )

Just a few examples ......I never wanted our expected my T2 to sound like my Kn7000
but I certainly thought that Yamaha would have had song specific styles available to purchase !!!

Regards to you all ..........Giovanni
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#305244 - 02/27/08 04:23 PM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
Chris Housley Offline
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 127
Hi Folks; On the subject of the Tyros 2 which i have just been looking at and playing for the last couple of hours, and i must say i enjoyed it very much... althoughi still gig with my KN7000 , does the Tyros 2 have the facility of storing audio files like the kn7000 , and play them back?.. Wondered if it had this facility..
thanks.
Chris.

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#305245 - 04/21/08 02:41 AM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Chris, What the SD card is to your Kn7000 a memory stick (Thumb drive) is to a Tyros 2. It does the same job and much better. Instead of transporting your file on a limited floppy disk from the computer you use a memory stick. Yes, it will store audio files.

John C.

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#305246 - 04/21/08 02:54 AM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Giovanni, Try this site – be prepared to receive hundreds of styles. Not all good and some fantastic. This site will give you all the information you need on just about every subject.
The Kn7000 is a fine keyboard for big band music. The Tyros2 plays big band with a contemporary flavor – more push and drive. I use the registrations to achieve what I want from the styles, cut some of the instruments and adjust volumes to my taste, and I select and adjust the right hand instruments.

John C.
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#305247 - 04/21/08 03:02 AM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Quote:
Originally posted by bruno123:
Chris, What the SD card is to your Kn7000 a memory stick (Thumb drive) is to a Tyros 2. It does the same job and much better. Instead of transporting your file on a limited floppy disk from the computer you use a memory stick. Yes, it will store audio files.

John C.


Chris, I think I may be mistaken about storing the audio files directly to the memory stick, I have the S900 which can store the audio directly to a memory stick. Sorry.

John C.

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#305248 - 04/22/08 03:32 PM Re: technics kn7000 to tyros 2
Chris Housley Offline
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 127
Some very interesting readings on this subject!!... i have DECIDED that the Tyros 2 is going to be my next investment second keyboard along with my Kn7000 which i still will use at the moment until i find my way around this wonderful instrument... The Tyros 3 i will wait and see what the prices and advantages this has against the T2. Chris.

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