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#312995 - 01/18/11 06:10 PM Re: New Arranger POLL- What you want [Re: miden]
travlin'easy Offline
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While I love the onboard speakers for the office/studio work, I dead plug them when I'm working. I want to hear what the audience hears--exactly what they hear. The keyboard speakers are great, but I discovered a few years ago that the audience is not hearing them--they're hearing what is coming from the PA system.

A classic example of Murphy's Law in this area was when a good friend and fellow entertainer was working a job at an Italian restaurant in Baltimore. He was playing and singing his heart out when all of the sudden, without warning, the PA, a Bose L1 Compact, went silent. Unfortunately, he didn't know it. He was monitoring himself through the keyboard speakers and never noticed the loss of sound.

I was sitting just a few feet from him when it happened, and let him know. He stopped playing, said he was taking a short break, and I fixed the problem. He had a bad 1/4-inch cable coming out of his mixer and going into the Bose. A spare cable quickly solved the problem and he was back from the break in less than 3 minutes.

Just food for thought,

Gary cool
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#314314 - 01/28/11 06:16 PM Re: New Arranger POLL- What you want [Re: miden]
leeboy Offline
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Donny...61 VS 76 only 2 votes different...a lot of folks want 76 it looks like about half.
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#314363 - 01/29/11 03:30 AM Re: New Arranger POLL- What you want [Re: leeboy]
trosha Offline
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Registered: 04/01/07
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Loc: Pozarevac/Serbia
So what musician think about this my project
keys will be 61,76,88 from master midi keys
Trosa


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#314373 - 01/29/11 05:32 AM Re: New Arranger POLL- What you want [Re: leeboy]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: leeboy
Donny...61 VS 76 only 2 votes different...a lot of folks want 76 it looks like about half.


Although there are a few other choices....As long as the best sounding arranger as many would say TYROS 4 has 61 keys ......
you can always use a EXTRA controller and get the 76 fix taken care of no problem at all.

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#314405 - 01/29/11 11:33 AM Re: New Arranger POLL- What you want [Re: miden]
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That's not a fix for the problem, though. That's a Band-Aid over a deep wound.

So the answer to those that prefer 76 is to carry TWO keyboards around? Please!

And it's already been well documented how many compromises you need to make to integrate that second keyboard. You can't lay it out how you want from within the T4 OS, you have to do quite a lot from the 76 itself, making registration changes a far more complicated procedure.

For people happy with 61's, then yes, this DOES look like the solution to the problem. But only because you don't HAVE the problem! If arrangers generally only came in 49 note models, and you had to jump through these kinds of hoops to add a 61, trust me, you would NOT be considering this 'problem fixed'!
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#314408 - 01/29/11 11:38 AM Re: New Arranger POLL- What you want [Re: miden]
Dnj Offline
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Why a problem as I see it there are many 76 choices out there for all you piano style arranger players...just pick one and play simple eh?..

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#314412 - 01/29/11 11:44 AM Re: New Arranger POLL- What you want [Re: miden]
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Huh? PA3, Audya... what else?

If you are talking about CURRENT arrangers.
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#314434 - 01/29/11 12:39 PM Re: New Arranger POLL- What you want [Re: Diki]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: Diki
Huh? PA3, Audya... what else?

If you are talking about CURRENT arrangers.


Hmmmmmm?... G70, SD1, Pa2x, comes to mind.. ;0 oh yeah, but they dont sound like the Tyros4 ....what was I thinking? bounce

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#314448 - 01/29/11 01:31 PM Re: New Arranger POLL- What you want [Re: Dnj]
Gunnar Jonny Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
;0 oh yeah, but they dont sound like the Tyros4 ....what was I thinking? bounce


And that's real good!
Why should all sound like T4? Each brand it's own caracter to suit different taste and support the different players needs.

That said, T4 is the Yammie Arr who sounds best regarding to drums and bass when play styles that I've heard so far, but still too compressed, polished and CD'ish for my taste. But again, that's my very personal point of view.

Rock on! organ
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