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#313792 - 01/24/11 04:40 PM Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA)
Scottyee Offline
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Ok gang, I just uploaded this to my YouTube channel. Here's more live unedited video footage, shot by Tapas Das wink , of the Korg Pa3X, as demonstrated by Malcom Doak (Korg USA) at Namm 2011. Again, the sound isn't very good frown (noisy background environment) but it at least offers a more in depth look & listen at the Pa3X's sound and style offerings. Thanks Malcom! cool

Select 1080p for optimal HD pic quality. cool

Part 1: (11:40):


Part 2: (09:28):


Part 3: (12:07)


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#313794 - 01/24/11 05:02 PM Re: Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA) [Re: Scottyee]
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I think "Part 3" perhaps sheds the most light on Pa3X's new sounds & features.

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#313800 - 01/24/11 05:50 PM Re: Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA) [Re: Scottyee]
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Does Korg just grab anyone to demo these units? .... I'm not trying to be funny, but honestly these are NOT demonstrators at all, I haven't seen any yet ...it's sad to watch them...I hope KORG is reading this also so maybe they will wake up and hire some qualified people who know how to present a product in a professional manner....I don't get it?


Edited by Dnj (01/24/11 05:51 PM)

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#313808 - 01/24/11 06:45 PM Re: Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA) [Re: Scottyee]
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Hi everyone:

Malcolm is a good guy, he understands the arrangers, he works in Korg USA, but for what I know, he is not in the arranger division.
I know he makes his best efforts to demo with a unit that probably he has never seen. Malcolm was instrumental for us (Juan Miguel Zarate and I) to get us involved to make the Real Mexican-South-American Styles for Korg USA with Jerry K, and Chris Anthony overlooking the project.

I wish Korg will put some interest and someone in the Arranger section, I do understand the Kronos is a AWESOME workstation, but, why develop a PA3X if is not going to be promoted?....

I hope Korg could consider an "embasador" or local Demonstrator for certain regions, working in coordination with the Korg Rep. I said this, because 99% of the music stores have kids that are clueless about arrangers, "if you don't show, you don't sell".

Think about it, is like Korg have made the Kronos and have nobody to show it, it is wonderful, but if we did not heard it, how would we know it? better, How it would sell if no one knew or heard it?
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#313819 - 01/24/11 08:35 PM Re: Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA) [Re: Scottyee]
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Actually you guys, Malcolm is the product manager for the arranger keyboards here in the USA. He spends a lot of time at my store when he is in Los Angeles. He does know his products really well but this PA3X was just received in New York right before NAMM. As most of you know, the people who design these arrangers are Italian and only accept input from people like Malcolm and other countries product managers.
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#313820 - 01/24/11 08:38 PM Re: Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA) [Re: Scottyee]
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Here's my take on the Namm Korg USA team, and especially Malcolm, Korg USA Product Mgr. smile For whatever they may lack in arranger demonstrator polish and showmanship, they make it up 'plus more' in their genuine interest in and providing 'one-on-one' time to us the customer. Last time I was at Namm, the Korg team greeted me like a member of the family, and Malcolm spent lots of time showing me around the Pa2X as well as asking me what feature(s) I liked/didn't like about it, as well as other features I'd like to see in the future. wink Later that evening: Frankie, Tapas, myself, and one of the other guys on the Korg team got together for a drink and enjoyable dinner. That said, I concur with what Manuel said above. smile

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#313821 - 01/24/11 08:40 PM Re: Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA) [Re: Scottyee]
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Thanks for posting them Scott smile ...I had low expectations, but even then I was still disappointed....

Korg really blundered here. Either it should have been a full release, or hold it off until MM...

Dennis

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#313823 - 01/24/11 08:41 PM Re: Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA) [Re: George Kaye]
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Originally Posted By: George Kaye
the people who design these arrangers are Italian and only accept input from people like Malcolm and other countries product managers.


George that could be the problem they should be also adding the input from THE PLAYERS & CUSTOMERS also!

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#313824 - 01/24/11 08:42 PM Re: Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA) [Re: Scottyee]
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You have to remember that NAMM is essentially a 'trade show', NOT a public access show, and as such, the demonstrators there are trying to sell to jaded music store owners that have seen every flash demo for every product for the last twenty years! 'Give me the important info, let me get on to the next booth' is often all a busy store owner can handle. Most of them are capable of telling the wheat from the chaff without a fancy tuxedo'ed OMB running down some dated chestnut standard.

It's the manufacturer WEBSITES that should be the final resting place of the high quality demo, IMO. As much vaporware and beta gets shown at NAMM, I rarely trust what I hear to be what I'm likely to buy. Maybe I'm just a patient guy (few of my friends will agree, mind you!), but I can usually wait until a keyboard is actually on the shelves before I need to hear a high quality demo.
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#313842 - 01/25/11 12:21 AM Re: Korg Pa3X Demo @ Namm 2011: Malcom Doak (Korg USA) [Re: Scottyee]
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Trouble is, Diki, by virtue of You Tube, this IS a public access show.

An awful lot of people outside of the industry will think to themselves that 'that's a pile of ****' without waiting for the official demos to surface. Agreed, it's their loss, but the damage is done. You put your best foot forward first, and Korg has neglected to do that here.

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