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#314626 - 01/30/11 06:47 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 08/28/04
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
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I prefer to stand. I've played 3:45 straight without sitting down, no breaks, more than once. I don't encourage that, haha, just reporting. I prefer to stand, I can get into it better, but I also play guitar, so, I'm a bit different. Maybe I will change my tune, getting older.
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#314638 - 01/30/11 07:38 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: Dnj]
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I stood until age 55, a time when the body began saying "Yeah, you think you look cool, but damned this hurts." That was 15 years ago. Thousands of jobs later no one ever said "Gee, you would look more professional if you were standing." I use a fully adjustable, heavy-duty Quick-Lock D-749. I modified the seat, doubled the padding thickness to 4 inches, and made it a bit larger for added comfort. It sells for about $150 and it was worth every penny I paid for it. Cheers, Gary
Edited by travlin'easy (01/30/11 07:40 PM)
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#314639 - 01/30/11 07:48 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 07/27/05
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I am a confirmed sitter.
Sometimes I'll do a short demo on a keyboard while standing, but for gigging, I prefer to sit. Why?
With the B-3 it's the pedals...especially the expression pedal..way to awkward to use while standing. Bass pedals? A no brainer.
With an arranger, I generally use just a sustain, sometimes I'll add another pedal (for Leslie speed or SA activation), or I'll hook up a swell pedal (for volume or pitch bending)...again, it depends on the gig and the music.
Standing using a sustain pedal tends to be very hard on one leg...plus, the keyboard stand has to very high for me, at 6'2", in order to be able to play so my wrists are straight, and I'm avoiding carpel tunnel issues.
I bought a really nice folding piano type bench, that has deluxe padding and is very comfortable, even for those 3 hour gigs.
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#314641 - 01/30/11 07:51 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: ianmcnll]
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Registered: 09/21/00
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I am a confirmed sitter.
Sometimes I'll do a short demo on a keyboard while standing, but for gigging, I prefer to sit. Why?
With the B-3 it's the pedals...especially the expression pedal..way to awkward to use while standing. Bass pedals? A no brainer.
With an arranger, I generally use just a sustain, sometimes I'll add another pedal (for Leslie speed or SA activation), or I'll hook up a swell pedal (for volume or pitch bending)...again, it depends on the gig and the music.
Standing using a sustain pedal tends to be very hard on one leg...plus, the keyboard stand has to very high for me, at 6'2", in order to be able to play so my wrists are straight, and I'm avoiding carpel tunnel issues.
Ian great points Ian.... sitting and playing keys just goes together ! and most of all it's much more comfortable and I think it allows you to play better and utilize all features & techniques needed for a great performance so much better.
Edited by Dnj (01/30/11 08:03 PM)
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#314650 - 01/30/11 08:52 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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I hate singing in a seated position (even before my gut got rather large), so standing is a natural fix for that. Also, today's venues often have no stage, and I am entertaining on the same level as the audience - standing gives me a visual edge....also more freedom of movement. I have 2 footswitches at my right foot .. one for sustain, and the other for vocal harmonies. Sustain is pushed at least 90% of the night, so a quick shift to the right,and I turn on the "singers". I put on and take off my guitar a few times each hour, so standing is very natural for me in that regard as well. The biggest reason is visibility though .... the audience can connect with me better and I have more control over the room dynamics when I can look out over the top ... or at least over their heads! lol Back in the Rhodes days, I sat because I had no way to raise that beast up high enough an d still feel safe, but as digital replaces plywood .... everything just gets easier and easier. Sit, stand - do what makes you happy, but make the music.
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#314656 - 01/30/11 09:14 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 09/21/00
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I hate singing in a seated position (even before my gut got rather large), so standing is a natural fix for that. Also, today's venues often have no stage, and I am entertaining on the same level as the audience - standing gives me a visual edge....also more freedom of movement. I have 2 footswitches at my right foot .. one for sustain, and the other for vocal harmonies. Sustain is pushed at least 90% of the night, so a quick shift to the right,and I turn on the "singers". I put on and take off my guitar a few times each hour, so standing is very natural for me in that regard as well. The biggest reason is visibility though .... the audience can connect with me better and I have more control over the room dynamics when I can look out over the top ... or at least over their heads! lol Back in the Rhodes days, I sat because I had no way to raise that beast up high enough an d still feel safe, but as digital replaces plywood .... everything just gets easier and easier. Sit, stand - do what makes you happy, but make the music. I remember when you sat down and played
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#314698 - 01/31/11 12:39 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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Like Ian, I sit when playing a B-3-something I'm so fortunate to do 4-5 times a month.
I also sit when I play jazz guitar, and when I play multiple keys (eg. an arranger with a synth on top and a piano on my right hand-one of my favorite ways to work).
But, obviously, when I play vibes or front a show with the philharmonic or other big band, I switch between lots of instruments...multiple neck guitars, basses, keys, percussion, etc.
Sitting, standing...lying down...I don't care, I JUST WANT TO PLAY!
Russ
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#314757 - 01/31/11 07:22 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 06/24/05
Posts: 892
Loc: Baltimore, MD USA
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I stood until age 55, a time when the body began saying "Yeah, you think you look cool, but damned this hurts." That was 15 years ago. Thousands of jobs later no one ever said "Gee, you would look more professional if you were standing." I use a fully adjustable, heavy-duty Quick-Lock D-749. I modified the seat, doubled the padding thickness to 4 inches, and made it a bit larger for added comfort. It sells for about $150 and it was worth every penny I paid for it. Cheers, Gary Hi Gary. I took a look at that stool recently at GC. The back was too far back for me. I couldn't see how to adjust it. I might like a setup like that if I could make if feel right. Joe
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#314759 - 01/31/11 07:36 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4723
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I hate singing in a seated position (even before my gut got rather large), so standing is a natural fix for that. Also, today's venues often have no stage, and I am entertaining on the same level as the audience - standing gives me a visual edge....also more freedom of movement. I have 2 footswitches at my right foot .. one for sustain, and the other for vocal harmonies. Sustain is pushed at least 90% of the night, so a quick shift to the right,and I turn on the "singers". I put on and take off my guitar a few times each hour, so standing is very natural for me in that regard as well. The biggest reason is visibility though .... the audience can connect with me better and I have more control over the room dynamics when I can look out over the top ... or at least over their heads! lol Back in the Rhodes days, I sat because I had no way to raise that beast up high enough an d still feel safe, but as digital replaces plywood .... everything just gets easier and easier. Sit, stand - do what makes you happy, but make the music. I'm with you UD! The only time in my life I sat during a performance was for teen organ recitals. It's so very natural, I feel 'at home' every time I perform.
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#314955 - 02/01/11 11:02 PM
Re: Why Stand When performing with an arranger KB.. ?
[Re: Songman55]
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Registered: 01/30/06
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I stood until age 55, a time when the body began saying "Yeah, you think you look cool, but damned this hurts." That was 15 years ago. Thousands of jobs later no one ever said "Gee, you would look more professional if you were standing." I use a fully adjustable, heavy-duty Quick-Lock D-749. I modified the seat, doubled the padding thickness to 4 inches, and made it a bit larger for added comfort. It sells for about $150 and it was worth every penny I paid for it. Cheers, Gary Gary, If I sat in that chair I would expect to have my teeth pulled out. Tony Hi Gary. I took a look at that stool recently at GC. The back was too far back for me. I couldn't see how to adjust it. I might like a setup like that if I could make if feel right. Joe
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