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#315484 - 02/06/11 11:37 AM Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro
Scottyee Offline
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Here's another group of polls I think will be interesting to learn and discover about our SZ membership.

Everyone's participation greatly appreciated. cool
Arranger Keyboardist Category:
Only one choice allowed


Votes accepted starting: 02/06/11 11:03 AM
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Keyboard Background & Skill Level
Multiple choices allowed


Votes accepted starting: 02/06/11 11:23 AM
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Other Instrument(s) played:
Multiple choices allowed


Votes accepted starting: 02/06/11 11:34 AM
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#315525 - 02/06/11 04:49 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
Scottyee Offline
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Folks, In the first poll above, beginning with ages 31-39, I cited the 10 year age ranges in error.

31-39 should read 30-39
41-49 should read 40-49
51-59 should read 50-59
61-69 should read 60-69
71-79 should read 70-79
81-89 should read 80-89

Please submit your vote accordingly. Thanks. smile

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#315528 - 02/06/11 05:16 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
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Re: Poll #2 - Perfect (absolute) Pitch Question

To clarify the definition of Perfect Pitch (aka: absolute pitch). This means being able to identify any single pitch heard without having heard any other prior pitch as a reference point. This relatively rare ability is inborn and very different than "relatve pitch", which is the ability to recognize a pitch based on the interval relationship between a known note heard previously.

Here's a test to determine whether you actually have perfect pitch or not: click here

Please select "perfect pitch" in poll #2 only if you pass the above test for perfect pitch. Thank you.

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#316044 - 02/10/11 12:47 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
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SCOTTY.....

I like your polls! You are pretty cute too wink Elizabeth

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#316045 - 02/10/11 01:33 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: etwo4788]
Scottyee Offline
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Originally Posted By: etwo4788
SCOTTY.....
I like your polls! You are pretty cute too wink Elizabeth
Thanks Elizabeth.blush <blush>
The one thing sorely missing on this forum is the severe shortage of ladies, like you. wink

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#316057 - 02/10/11 02:54 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
DonM Offline
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I'm pretty sure Scott is spoken for Elizabeth. On the other hand, by friend SemiLive is rich, talented and available!
DonM
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#316059 - 02/10/11 03:05 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
Scottyee Offline
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Elizabeth, don't pay attention to Don or Semi-live Bill, they're just jealous cause I've got a Tyros 4 and they don't. bounce

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#316102 - 02/10/11 08:56 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
Nigel Offline
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Elizabeth, don't pay attention to Don or Semi-live Bill, they're just jealous cause I've got a Tyros 4 and they don't. bounce


rotfl

But I do really like these polls.

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#316111 - 02/10/11 09:13 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
DonM Offline
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Elizabeth, don't pay attention to Don or Semi-live Bill, they're just jealous cause I've got a Tyros 4 and they don't. bounce


Everybody and their dog has a Tyros 4, Bill and I have an Audya!
DonM
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#316172 - 02/11/11 06:36 AM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: DonM]
Scottyee Offline
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Originally Posted By: DonM

Everybody and their dog has a Tyros 4

Bill and I have an Audya!


Don, so then which 'one' of you guys is the dog? !
( sorry but I could'nt resist bounce )

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#316173 - 02/11/11 06:43 AM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Originally Posted By: DonM

Everybody and their dog has a Tyros 4

Bill and I have an Audya!


Don, so then which 'one' of you guys is the dog? !
( sorry but I could'nt resist bounce )


Scott, you're being a little "ruff" on the poor old...er...older...guy.
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#316305 - 02/12/11 11:19 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
saffar Offline
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Registered: 01/12/11
Posts: 7
Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Originally Posted By: DonM

Everybody and their dog has a Tyros 4

Bill and I have an Audya!


Don, so then which 'one' of you guys is the dog? !
( sorry but I could'nt resist bounce )


LOL :))

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#316556 - 02/15/11 10:22 AM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
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Posts: 2071
Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
Scott obviously you haven't met DonM. He's big enough to pick you and me up at the same time in each hand and slap our heads together. It's a good thing he's also congenial too.
Bet you guy's didn't know a NO Cajun boy knew a word like "congenial" Eh? I hope I spelled it right!
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#316560 - 02/15/11 11:07 AM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Boo, nah I'm not worried . . .
I know Kung Fu, Ju Jitsu, Karate, Tae Kwan Do, and a few other maritial arts (words), at least how to spell them! bounce

Yeah, of course I LOVE DonM! I had better, I want to 'live'! laugh
It's all good intentioned fun right Don?

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#316577 - 02/15/11 01:50 PM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
I know a couple of American guys, Smith and Wesson.
smile
Haven't had a fight since I learned how to apologize though.
DonM
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#316764 - 02/17/11 09:03 AM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
arranger_yes_pc_no Offline
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Registered: 07/16/09
Posts: 319
most choices don't apply to me....first of all, how do you define a pro?

1. I don't get paid for my music but I consider myself a pro
2. I am self-taught but taught myself formal training off university-level books
3. I am a proficient sight-reader but I also play by ear a lot. It's not that one is better than the other: a pro has to do both.
4. I trained my ear fairly heavily, and so have a trained ear
5. I am a composer and write my own music

and so on....

the only thing I have to keep working at, other than always improving on everything, is my keyboard technique. But I'll get there too, and my technique is by no means bad....basically piano grade 5. Not bad for a self-taught.

however, I am a late bloomer and my learning has been delayed by my own ignorance, but that's another story...

this is a good pro, to me:

1. he can read music and can play by ear, both to an high degree
2. he has a great piano technique
3. he writes his own music
4. he has studied harmony and composition

mmmmh....I think I am still forgetting something. Lol....

oh yes
whether he earns money or not for his music, doesn't change the rest: if he's an hobbyst, he's still an hobbyst, if he's a pro, he's still a pro.

I still intend to earn some money for my skills as a musician, but up to now I preferred to focus on developing my skills, which I keep doing of course.

There you have my 1 cent...



Edited by arranger_yes_pc_no (02/17/11 09:04 AM)

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#316768 - 02/17/11 09:24 AM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Scottyee]
DonM Offline
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Generally, a professional is one who makes a living doing the task or art involved. Here are definitions:

–adjective
1.
following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a professional builder.
2.
of, pertaining to, or connected with a profession: professional studies.
3.
appropriate to a profession: professional objectivity.
4.
engaged in one of the learned professions: A lawyer is a professional person.
5.
following as a business an occupation ordinarily engaged in as a pastime: a professional golfer.
6.
making a business or constant practice of something not properly to be regarded as a business: “A salesman,” he said, “is a professional optimist.”
7.
undertaken or engaged in as a means of livelihood or for gain: professional baseball.
8.
of or for a professional person or his or her place of business or work: a professional apartment; professional equipment.
9.
done by a professional; expert: professional car repairs.
–noun
10.
a person who belongs to one of the professions, especially one of the learned professions.
11.
a person who earns a living in a sport or other occupation frequently engaged in by amateurs: a golf professional.
12.
an expert player, as of golf or tennis, serving as a teacher, consultant, performer, or contestant; pro.
13.
a person who is expert at his or her work: You can tell by her comments that this editor is a real professional

As you can see, it can be taken in at least two ways.
I am a professional, because I'm good enough, maybe barely, to have made a living playing music for close to 40 years.
I can read music, but I don't anymore. Doesn't make me any less a pro.
I can, or could, play trumpet at a high level. Never made a dime doing it, so NOT a pro.
That's my take.
DonM
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#316772 - 02/17/11 09:57 AM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: DonM]
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
"Professional" does not dictate your skill level, but your ability to sustain a income from your skill level...

Many non professional folks have a higher skill level than "Pros"... smile


Skill does not make a "Pro".. wink
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#316774 - 02/17/11 10:11 AM Re: Poll: Arr.Hobbyist, Prt-Time Pro, or Full Time Pro [Re: Fran Carango]
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Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 2204
Loc: Florida, USA
The title "pro" doesn't bother me one way or the other as long as the check clears.

Being called a DeeJay while playing the keyboard and singing frosts me a bit. rolleyes

Eddie

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