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#315607 - 02/07/11 12:07 PM .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie
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This is a direct paste of a post by Bachus at the Korg Forums, makes for interesting reading, if true!! Personally I find it a bit hard to believe, but who knows

Spoke to a Yamaha demonstrator over the weekend, his name was Bert....

he told me that Yamaha would have some surprises for everyone at Musikmesse...

-Tyros 4 rack
-Tyros 4 pro with 76 keys

-Cubase based studio workstation with buildin cubase and VST support... Including a hardware upgrade program for the future...
-VST version of the MOTIF XF, even works with the KARMA software
-VST versions of many of their previous synths
-VSTversion of Tyros 4
-Everything else needed to build your own dreamsystem.

-Modular solo synth with all possible synthesis engines that lets you combine building blocks of the different engines in a modualr sense...

Everyone must be prepared to be surprised in Frankfurt....


Dennis

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#315619 - 02/07/11 12:56 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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#315626 - 02/07/11 01:38 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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Originally Posted By: miden
.... his name was Bert....

Everyone must be prepared to be surprised in Frankfurt....


His name was Bert.... bart Simpson confused

Everyone must be prepared to be surprised in Frankfurt,,

Yeah, I'm sure we will, in one way or another.... smile

Cheers
GJ

Btw, if T4 Pro 76 going to be a reality, I will look at it very OPENMINDED!


Edited by Gunnar Jonny (02/07/11 01:40 PM)
Edit Reason: Just a note

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#315650 - 02/07/11 03:21 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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Bert Smorenburg perhaps?? He's the Yammie demo guy and has some of the best chops around. Anyway, whoever the Bert was that he was talking about it should be interesting to find out what product or products he was referring to. If Yamaha brings out a "PRO" 76 key T4 I will be absolutely "floored". Heart attack is more like it. I won't hold my breath though. If the T4 is already selling well, which it no doubt is, then I don't really see the need for Yamaha to give potential customers a 76 key version out of the goodness of their cold blooded and calculated money hungry heart, do you? laugh lol

A more likely scenario would be possibly a better speaker system add-on for the current 61 key T4 perhaps. Korg's Pa3x mind-blowing speaker add-on looks to garner many accolades if indeed it is as powerful and great sounding as the hype suggests it might be. Or perhaps an arranger "module" from Yamaha? Roland's new arranger module puts a little spice into the mix and maybe Yammie is wanting to counter that threat possibly. Or maybe we'll see some additional "custom voices" on the horizon. Voices that you'll end up paying for perhaps, but the quality is right up there with the best available including VST'i?? We'll have to wait a couple months to find out though. frown

Let the games begin! Or in this case, let the "wait" begin I guess huh... wink

All the best, Mike
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#315652 - 02/07/11 03:21 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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If this is true, this may indeed trump anything Korg and Ketron may have to offer. I for one would love a T4 Module to go with either my Motif or Audya, I mean wow the best of all worlds, and just quietly, I think the pre launch of the Korg PAX3 was a disgrace, what the hell do they think they were doing? The T4 demo's put it to shame with exception of the TC Helicon voicing on the PA3X it looked as though it was a poor makeover for the PA2X.

I for one now will be waiting for Musicmesse to see what happens should be very interesting, and come on Ketron pull your finger out on Audya and get some new spice into it as well.

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#315656 - 02/07/11 03:28 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: Robbo]
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Originally Posted By: Robbo
.....and come on Ketron pull your finger out on Audya and get some new spice into it as well.


That'll be the day ......
Before any new spice, they have to make it work well and build it solid so the customers don't have to open and reconnect cables! rolleyes

Cheers
GJ

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#315658 - 02/07/11 03:34 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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I believe everything Bachus has heard sounds reasonable...and I hope it happens!
I will be waiting to see, much like many others....but, I will continue to persure the build your own organ idea.
It will be of course be only an arranger with lower & pedals.


Edited by leeboy (02/07/11 04:04 PM)
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#315665 - 02/07/11 03:57 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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there will be a lot of angry t4 players if the 76 comes out at musicmesse.

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#315669 - 02/07/11 04:07 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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Donny,
Why would there be? According to many here 61 is preferred. (I'm not one of those only wantng 61). I thinkif Yamaha offers a 76 they will sell plenty of them (just like I have always said) as many do not want to be cramped up into just 61.
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#315671 - 02/07/11 04:34 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: leeboy]
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I'm talking about people that already bought a tyros4 that wanted a 76 and settled on a 61


Edited by Dnj (02/07/11 04:39 PM)

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#315672 - 02/07/11 04:36 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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Originally Posted By: leeboy
Donny,
Why would there be? According to many here 61 is preferred. (I'm not one of those only wantng 61). I thinkif Yamaha offers a 76 they will sell plenty of them (just like I have always said) as many do not want to be cramped up into just 61.



Exactly...thing is, those who simply have to have 76 keys, would not have settled for a 61-note Tyros4, no matter how great it sounded...they'd be more likely to buy a Korg PA2XPro, a second hand Roland G-70, or a new or used Audya.

Since everyone raves about these instruments, I doubt if anyone would be dissatisfied with such a purchase, or suddenly want a 76-note TyrosPro, if such an instrument were to be produced..

It's odd to see such news allegedly coming from a Yamaha demonstrator, as I would suppose they would have signed an NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement).

Ian
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#315681 - 02/07/11 05:38 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
I'm talking about people that already bought a tyros4 that wanted a 76 and settled on a 61


Absolutely, spot on the money!
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#315682 - 02/07/11 05:39 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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Well...I found this tidbit a little later in that Korg Thread!
'i know yamaha could build the stuff i made up, but they wont untill they realise it is to late and they lost their leading position to a company that is developing innovative stuff.'

So, Bachus...you were just playing games?

Go to bed tonight withot your supper!
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#315683 - 02/07/11 05:42 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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LOL! I had to check the calendar to see if it was April 1.

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#315686 - 02/07/11 05:59 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: leeboy]
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Originally Posted By: leeboy
So, Bachus...you were just playing games?

Go to bed tonight withot your supper!




Ha ha...that was good one! That's why I love this place.

Naughty Bachus!

You got poor old whatshisname up above in a tizzy!

Ian
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#315690 - 02/07/11 06:20 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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It's a joke? C'mon, I hate wasting time unless I plan on wasting time. Sheesh.
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#315705 - 02/07/11 09:09 PM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
leeboy Offline
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Well...he doesn't joke around all that often...so I was cautiosly hopefull. :-)

He caught me off guard....
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#315724 - 02/08/11 03:21 AM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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I can't believe that anyone would have given this utterly impossible idea the time of day.

But if you DID.... come on down to Florida. I've got some interesting land deals you might be interested in! Got a good line on some infrastructure up for sale connecting Manhattan and Brooklyn, too.

Bring lots of cash!
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#315739 - 02/08/11 06:34 AM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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I admit it! I fell for it. I guess I'm the type of person that thinks there is always hope that people and/or company's can see the light!

I do know one thing for sure, IF Yamaha wanted to do that list, all but a couple things could be done reasonably quickly and would be hits.

Diki,
Well, I wuld like 1 acre on the intercoastal in a top area...I have $150k to spend. Or, I'll trade ya for a nice place here in the country!



Edited by leeboy (02/08/11 06:36 AM)
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#315758 - 02/08/11 08:30 AM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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Originally Posted By: miden
This is a direct paste of a post by Bachus at the Korg Forums, makes for interesting reading, if true!! Personally I find it a bit hard to believe, but who knows

Spoke to a Yamaha demonstrator over the weekend, his name was Bert....

he told me that Yamaha would have some surprises for everyone at Musikmesse...

-Tyros 4 rack
-Tyros 4 pro with 76 keys

-Cubase based studio workstation with buildin cubase and VST support... Including a hardware upgrade program for the future...
-VST version of the MOTIF XF, even works with the KARMA software
-VST versions of many of their previous synths
-VSTversion of Tyros 4
-Everything else needed to build your own dreamsystem.

-Modular solo synth with all possible synthesis engines that lets you combine building blocks of the different engines in a modualr sense...

Everyone must be prepared to be surprised in Frankfurt....


Dennis


VST Tyros 4 , I would buy in an instant....but I doubt it's true.

The studio workstation is also v interesting....

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#315760 - 02/08/11 08:36 AM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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Originally Posted By: miden
This is a direct paste of a post by Bachus at the Korg Forums, makes for interesting reading, if true!! Personally I find it a bit hard to believe, but who knows

Spoke to a Yamaha demonstrator over the weekend, his name was Bert....

he told me that Yamaha would have some surprises for everyone at Musikmesse...

-Tyros 4 rack
-Tyros 4 pro with 76 keys

-Cubase based studio workstation with buildin cubase and VST support... Including a hardware upgrade program for the future...
-VST version of the MOTIF XF, even works with the KARMA software
-VST versions of many of their previous synths
-VSTversion of Tyros 4
-Everything else needed to build your own dreamsystem.

-Modular solo synth with all possible synthesis engines that lets you combine building blocks of the different engines in a modualr sense...

Everyone must be prepared to be surprised in Frankfurt....


Dennis


If you put my reaction in the contest of that post, you would have seen i was trying to bring over a point..

Offcourse the points where made up..

There is no truth whatsover in this posting
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#315779 - 02/08/11 10:12 AM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
I can't believe that anyone would have given this utterly impossible idea the time of day.

But if you DID.... come on down to Florida. I've got some interesting land deals you might be interested in! Got a good line on some infrastructure up for sale connecting Manhattan and Brooklyn, too.

Bring lots of cash!


Well it did have to have one whirl around the pole hey?? wink

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#315780 - 02/08/11 10:16 AM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: Bachus]
miden Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
Originally Posted By: miden
This is a direct paste of a post by Bachus at the Korg Forums, makes for interesting reading, if true!! Personally I find it a bit hard to believe, but who knows

Spoke to a Yamaha demonstrator over the weekend, his name was Bert....

he told me that Yamaha would have some surprises for everyone at Musikmesse...

-Tyros 4 rack
-Tyros 4 pro with 76 keys

-Cubase based studio workstation with buildin cubase and VST support... Including a hardware upgrade program for the future...
-VST version of the MOTIF XF, even works with the KARMA software
-VST versions of many of their previous synths
-VSTversion of Tyros 4
-Everything else needed to build your own dreamsystem.

-Modular solo synth with all possible synthesis engines that lets you combine building blocks of the different engines in a modualr sense...

Everyone must be prepared to be surprised in Frankfurt....



If you put my reaction in the contest of that post, you would have seen i was trying to bring over a point..

Offcourse the points where made up..

There is no truth whatsover in this posting


Hey Bachus there was no indication here (and this is ALL the post you made, nothing was left out) that you were trying to make a point about anything.

I knew it was not true when I read it (I tend to frequent the Yamaha forums a LOT), but as you did not make any disclaimers in the original post, and not for some time afterwards, I decided to see what sort of reaction it would garner here.

You reap what you sow.

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#315786 - 02/08/11 10:28 AM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: miden]
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Originally Posted By: miden
Originally Posted By: Bachus
Originally Posted By: miden
This is a direct paste of a post by Bachus at the Korg Forums, makes for interesting reading, if true!! Personally I find it a bit hard to believe, but who knows

Spoke to a Yamaha demonstrator over the weekend, his name was Bert....

he told me that Yamaha would have some surprises for everyone at Musikmesse...

-Tyros 4 rack
-Tyros 4 pro with 76 keys

-Cubase based studio workstation with buildin cubase and VST support... Including a hardware upgrade program for the future...
-VST version of the MOTIF XF, even works with the KARMA software
-VST versions of many of their previous synths
-VSTversion of Tyros 4
-Everything else needed to build your own dreamsystem.

-Modular solo synth with all possible synthesis engines that lets you combine building blocks of the different engines in a modualr sense...

Everyone must be prepared to be surprised in Frankfurt....



If you put my reaction in the contest of that post, you would have seen i was trying to bring over a point..

Offcourse the points where made up..

There is no truth whatsover in this posting


Hey Bachus there was no indication here (and this is ALL the post you made, nothing was left out) that you were trying to make a point about anything.

I knew it was not true when I read it (I tend to frequent the Yamaha forums a LOT), but as you did not make any disclaimers in the original post, and not for some time afterwards, I decided to see what sort of reaction it would garner here.

You reap what you sow.


Just read those reactions overhere and its obvious that people like the ideas...Combined with the fact that Yamaha has the technical knowledge to create this without to much development costs it clearly shows why people are complaining about the lack of innovation from Yamaha..
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#315788 - 02/08/11 10:45 AM Re: .... post from Bachus at Korg forums re Yammie [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Bachus

Just read those reactions overhere and its obvious that people like the ideas...Combined with the fact that Yamaha has the technical knowledge to create this without to much development costs it clearly shows why people are complaining about the lack of innovation from Yamaha..



Now THAT I do agree with !!

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