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#321114 - 04/07/11 03:37 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: ianmcnll]
FransN Offline
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Now for all the negative people and ofcourse people who are interested in the best keyboard (my opinion) go listen to this DNC sample of a elec guitar at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ8SqngItWY of the Korg PA2x
Also listen to some of his other demos.

Now think about that the PA3x have twice as must sample rom, more DNC sounds, 8 stereo effects at once plus much more goodies... Definitely a winner.

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#321116 - 04/07/11 03:58 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: Saswick]
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For all those "positive" people, who believe the PA3Xpro is positively bland (at least so far)...have a listen to the guitar on the mid-range Yamaha PSR-S910.



You can hear Tyros4 guitar demos here:

http://music-tyros.com/tyros4/features/voices/guitar.html



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#321120 - 04/07/11 04:32 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: ianmcnll]
FransN Offline
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I already hear these demos. Sound plastic to me. As if the sound engine is 20 + years old. Are we looking for a Korg vs Yamaha contest Ian?


Edited by FransN (04/07/11 04:37 PM)

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#321122 - 04/07/11 04:48 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: FransN]
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally Posted By: FransN
I already hear these demos. Sound plastic to me. As if the sound engine is 20 + years old. Are we looking for a Korg vs Yamaha contest Ian?


Nope, if I was looking for a contest, I would have started a new thread, but upon listening to Korg's dismal demos so far, there could not be a contest.

No, this is just a reminder how factory demos are supposed to be done.

Basic AWM sampling has been around for a long time...over 20 years...when something does the job properly, and allows for substantial upgrades as the newer technology is developed and becomes available, there is no need to change the basics.


Ian
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#321123 - 04/07/11 04:53 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: ianmcnll]
FransN Offline
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Well the other brands think there is.

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#321124 - 04/07/11 05:04 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: Saswick]
ianmcnll Offline
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Yes, apparently they do...they were forced to change just to keep up...now, if they could only show some actual positive results, then their need to change would be justified.

So far, it ain't happening...however, some good factory demos certainly would go a long way towards proving it.

Ian
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#321125 - 04/07/11 05:25 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: ianmcnll]
FransN Offline
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Come on Ian to keep up. Yamaha Motif XS is already beaten by the Kronos and also by the Roland Jupiter 80.

Yamaha comes with a cheap looking 64 Polyphone MOX6/8. It's almost embarrassing.

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#321134 - 04/07/11 06:17 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: FransN]
Nick G Offline
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Not correct Fran...

The MOX series is NOT a contender for the Kronos and Jupiter 80.
The MOX is a Yamaha's latest budget mid-range synth below the Motif XF.

The Motif XF is a complete workstation competing with Roland Fantom G / Korg M3...

I would say Jupiter 80 and Kronos are different tools that are more closer in comparison... they are more for pure synthesizer / live performer - which is something the Motif XF is still capable of (sound quality is obviously very subjective).

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#321135 - 04/07/11 06:19 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: FransN]
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Yes, Frans, the Kronos is a fine instrument. If I was looking for a good synthesizer, it would be on the list, but I already have a vintage Roland Jupiter 8 for all the analog stuff, and the Tyros4 has whatever else I need...those SA/SA2/Cool!/Sweet!/Live! voices are wonderfully expressive.

You see Frans, I am only stating the obvious. Korg needs to put up professional demos in order to show if there were actually any improvements in the sounds, especially the DNC voices.

So far, the PA3Xpro sounds hardly any different than the PA2Xpro...if you think that's a step ahead, that's fine by me.

And, so far, the Korg aficionados I have spoken with are not one bit impressed with the PA3XPro....and, neither am I.

It does appear you may be in the minority...

Ian
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#321136 - 04/07/11 06:22 PM Re: Pa3x Style examples [Re: Nick G]
FransN Offline
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Yes I know Nick but it is the only thing new from Yamaha and again based on AWM2. Korg and Roland does have much more variation in their assortiment synths.

The Kronos btw is a complete workstation and a direct compatitor of the Motif XS.

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