Can anyone recommend some styles that would work well for Tyros 2 for these tunes:

Jail House Rock (The intro/verse stop/start time thing is hard to pull off on an arranger?)

Sea Cruise- ( I haven’t found a rock n roll style that has the offbeat piano, in between straight and swung)

At the Hop- (up tiempo rock n roll with a constant straight 8th piano)

50’s 12/8 Rock Ballad ( with a constant triplet figure in the piano)


Thanks!

For "Jailhouse Rock" use "Rock n Roll2"
Variation A is what you are looking for.
For "At the Hop" the MFDB recommends "Croco Twist", but "Combo Boogie" might work too.
They are in the R&B section.
Hope this helps
Eric

Thanks Eric, the style for "Jail House Rock" works well. I don't know how I overlooked that one!

I use Rock & Roll 2 also for Jailhouse Rock. On Sea Cruiese Piano Boogie works real good. On the 50's thing I use 6/8 Slow Rock 1 variations B and D. You'll find that if you're looking for 12/8 styles you'll find them listed as 6/8. I have played At The Hop but didn't save the style. If I get a chance I'll see what worked.

Scott

Thanks Scott- I'm also using "Piano Boggie" for Sea Cruz but if you listen to the Frankie Ford version, he plays much more straight 8th with off beats on the piano.

I'll see if I can post a link, but youtube is blocked here at work.

montunoman,

Have you tried using the Groove function in your Style creator to give the Piano Boogie a more straight 8th feel?

Here's how, in case you want to try...

Choose the style PianoBoogie (it works well on other boogie woogies too) Select STYLE CREATOR, tab over to GROOVE, press any Style Variation Button, and when the SECTION window opens (below right on screen) use the up button under it to move the highlight so that it is on ALL. Press OK.

Then, under ORIGINAL BEAT select 12 BEAT, and under BEAT CONVERTOR select "8"....press EXECUTE and then SAVE the style to USER or USB. You might want to re-name it.

If you try it, let me know if it is satisfactory and does the job for Sea Cruise.

Ian

montunoman...have you tried using the Groove function in Style Creator I outlined above, or did you eventually find a style for Sea Cruise?

Ian

I tried out Ian's excellent "Groove Conversion" suggestion (on my T4) and think the "Piano Boogie" style converted to straight 8ths works great for "Sea Cruise". A big Thanks Ian.
Montunoman, I suspect my Tyros 4 style isn't backwardly compatible to T2,
but you should be able to (by simply following Ian's clear step by step instructions, quickly & easily achieve the same result on Tyros 2.
I wanted to upload my Tyros 4 format PianoBoogie straight 8th converted style here, but can't find where in this posting reply window to upload a file attachment. Can somebody tell me? Thanks.

Scott, the Quick Reply screen doesn't have it. Use the Reply button. At the bottom you'll see File Manager.
DonM

Thanks Scott...the Groove function in Style Creator is about the easiest part of that feature...especially if you are given what settings to use.

I don't think styles created/edited on the Tyros4 are backwards compatible, but as you say, the procedure is simple enough for most people.

Ian

Don, thanks for jogging my memory about the 'file manager' wording link. For some reason I keep looking for 'upload file attachment' and overlooking the 'file manager' thing. This same thing happened before too. hmmm.

Ok guys, here's the converted to straight 8ths Piano Boogie style (Tyros 4 format)

Hi Ian, I haven't had a chance to change it to straight 8th yet. Your instruction seems clear and I'll let you know how it goes. It should be a good style for several 50's rock tunes.

That's cool buddy...it's a good way of getting into using the Groove function.

You can also take straight 8ths and convert them to Swing 8ths by doing all the above, but instead of using ORIGINAL BEAT at 12 Beat set it at "8 Beat" and set BEAT CONVERTOR to "12".

Or...instead of using BEAT CONVERTOR, try setting the SWING to "C".

It opens up a lot of possibilities for you. Just trying to help.

Ian

Hi Ian- I was able to straighten out the boggie. Sounds great except the fills are all triplet bassed. Is there a way to straighten the fills?

Thanks again for the tip!

I can only suggest trying it again...I just tried it and the fills were suitable and sounded correct.

If all the rest of the style (Intros, Endings etc) are straight 8ths and the fills are still triplets, it can't be changing the whole style.

Make sure you are first pressing a style Variation button (A,B,C, or D) and then selecting ALL at the opening SECTION screen (bottom right) before you set the ORIGINAL BEAT to "12" and BEAT CONVERTOR to "8" and press EXECUTE.

Ian

OK, I'll double check to see if I did that when I get home from work.

Scott, did your fills change to straight 8th?

The fills on my "boggie piano" style are pretty much 8th note triplets (three hits per quarter note) So once they straighten out correctly will they sound like two 1/16 notes and an 1/8 note?

Montunoman,

You could check to see how the fills are played by recording a short piece in the SONG RECORDER, and then check out the score display to see how it is playing the notes. Mine displays eight 8th notes per measure for both the fills and the main.

So, check it out...

Record a short piece in SONG RECORDER.

To see the bass line, press SCORE, then SETUP (Button #8). At the opening screen, set LEFT CH to 11 (Bass) and press OK.

Press PLAY on your recorder, and SCORE again if not displayed, and you will see the Bass Line.

You could also try another Boogie Woogie style and see if that works better.

Ian

Here's the "PianoBoogie" conversion I did with my Tyros 2 (as in addition to the T4, I still have my T2 too).
The converted to straight 8's 'fills' sound ok to me. Montunoman, have a listen & let me know what you think.

btw: for anyone interested in purchasing my in excellent working condition 'fully loaded' Tyros 2, PM or email me.