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#322631 - 04/23/11 02:58 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: Fran Carango]
cgiles Offline
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Butt out, Ian. I'm trying to pick a fight with Fran so I can weasel out of picking up the tab for lunch next month smile .

chas
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#322632 - 04/23/11 03:02 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: cgiles]
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally Posted By: cgiles
Butt out, Ian. I'm trying to pick a fight with Fran so I can weasel out of picking up the tab for lunch next month smile .

chas


Ah c'mon, man...how much can a Happy Meal set ya back?

Ian
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#322634 - 04/23/11 03:26 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: Fran Carango]
cgiles Offline
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For someone that happily totes around a G70, I think it's going to take more than one Happy Meal.

smile

chas
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#322637 - 04/23/11 04:52 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: Fran Carango]
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I suppose you're right...he must be a lot stronger than he looks...

Ian
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#322644 - 04/23/11 06:50 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: Fran Carango]
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Jeez, I don't know how that can be, what with all those chicks he keeps parading on here.

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#322645 - 04/23/11 06:56 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: ianmcnll]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
Originally Posted By: cgiles
Originally Posted By: Fran Carango
The glitches pertained to the MP3 player and the sequencer...


Maybe it's God's way of telling you to play live smile .

chas


But Chas, he is playing "live" isn't he?

No worse than American Idle...singing over "tracks".

Ian


styles are midi files fellas ....or did you forget that?

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#322648 - 04/23/11 07:20 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: Dnj]
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dnj


styles are midi files fellas ....or did you forget that?


Donny, when you play over "tracks" (SMF or MP3), and you stop playing, the tracks continue on regardless if you walk away, dance, hop up and down, have a drink of soda...the chord changes all happen, the fills happen, the whole thing really doesn't need you at all.

With a style, if you stop playing....the song basically does too, unless it was written over one chord.

A style is 4/8/16 bars of a band/orchestra playing single chord...a SMF includes all the chord changes.

The style involves the player more, in my opinion.

I've seen people "play" over SMF...the instrument would not miss them if they stopped playing...it would keep going, making the chord changes without them having to do anything.

I like to arrange the music and conduct, or lead the band...not have the band lead me, which it does with a SMF.

If I thought SMF were more interactive and/or involving than styles, I would have been using them long ago, but, I find them boring and non-involving.

There will be those who like using them, and, some who have to use them, and I wouldn't laugh at them if they did, but SMF have no place in my perfomances.


Ian
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#322649 - 04/23/11 07:22 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: Fran Carango]
Dnj Offline
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let's also not forget the talent in creating SMF files also.
Track by track...or using something like Korg's backing track creator also.....recording tracks one by one correctly takes much more skill then letting a style play all the parts automatically
On arrangers Kb's the sequencer is there to be used as is the styles..


Edited by Dnj (04/23/11 07:26 PM)

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#322650 - 04/23/11 07:27 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: Dnj]
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
let's also not forget the talent in creating SMF files also.
On arrangers Kb's the sequencer is there to be used as is the styles.


I like using the sequencer to try out song ideas, or for recording my arrangements for making a Cd.

I make sure that the arrangement I record on the Cd, can be played "live" in style play when I'm performing.


Ian
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#322651 - 04/23/11 07:42 PM Re: Gigging with the MediaStation........ [Re: ianmcnll]
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There are many thing you cant do in style play vs SMF recording play......neither one is better then the other just different....what does matter is what it sounds like no matter how you do it. I'm appreciative and blessed that I can do it both ways & sing also.

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