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#322668 - 04/24/11 08:45 AM
Tony on the XK1
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#322695 - 04/24/11 04:33 PM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: Tonewheeldude]
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your more than welcome to call by and pick up my headphones, but sometimes both low and high frequencies can drop out a little as we get older... maybe its just that ;p
Seriously though, I listened back and imo the recording is fine. However, Bass is tricky because its like marmite, some people cant get enough and others just don't like it at all. Its often down to personal taste.
I agree about the personal taste thing...I've heard players who drown themselves in bass, and you can't distinguish much else...and they still want more? I tend to go with a very balanced mix...at least that's my goal when working in the studio...I'm also very fortunate to have started using ear protection at the beginning of playing in a band...the lead singer worked as an audiologist. Plus, back when I started, gear didn't have the power it has today...my old Leslies were only 40 watts. So, last hearing test was pretty good...thankfully. If I travel all the way to your place to pick up the 'phones, I just might try some marmite. Ha Ha! Ian
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#322700 - 04/24/11 06:24 PM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: Dnj]
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#322704 - 04/24/11 06:58 PM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: Dnj]
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I think he probably has good reasons not to use pedals...playing pedals is not for everyone....it's just another acquired skill.
Most of the greats do use them...Joey Defrancesco, Jimmy Smith, Barbara Dennerlein, Chas, Dr. Lonnie Smith...the list goes on.
There are few like Tony, that don't use pedals (at least very much), Paul Shaffer for example...Paul is originally from Canada.
Another one of my favorites was Doug Riley, also known as "Dr. Music"...another Canadian.
Ian
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#322716 - 04/24/11 11:21 PM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: Tonewheeldude]
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I tried it through 'phones too...still too much Right Hand volume...bassline is fat and round, but not enough volume...TWD, how 'bout loanin' me yer phones? your more than welcome to call by and pick up my headphones, but sometimes both low and high frequencies can drop out a little as we get older... maybe its just that ;p Seriously though, I listened back and imo the recording is fine. However, Bass is tricky because its like marmite, some people cant get enough and others just don't like it at all. Its often down to personal taste. TWD is right, you chaps are thinking your ears are all perfect most of you over 60 and you don't know unless your have been for a hearing test recently, the more your play your KB near to load noise the more your ears will be damaged, so it is little use you trying to judge what is good HF and LF, just believe me my HF is shattered and only a good set of hearing aids (Phonax) will bring some of it back, (not all). BTW if your hearing is damaged, it is more easily damaged future if you continue to be exposed to load noises. I am sure you all know about this and don’t need me to tell you, but just in case. Incidentally women can hear much HF than men so don’t ask your Doris about the bass pedals. A good test is set the KB on Hammond sound set the transpose up high and see if some of the top notes disappear when you play them, then get your wife to see if she can hear them and then go the see the audiologist. Tony
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#322719 - 04/25/11 01:00 AM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: Tony Hughes]
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TWD is right, you chaps are thinking your ears are all perfect most of you over 60 and you don't know unless your have been for a hearing test recently, the more your play your KB near to load noise the more your ears will be damaged, so it is little use you trying to judge what is good HF and LF, just believe me my HF is shattered and only a good set of hearing aids (Phonax) will bring some of it back, (not all). BTW if your hearing is damaged, it is more easily damaged future if you continue to be exposed to load noises. I am sure you all know about this and don’t need me to tell you, but just in case. Incidentally women can hear much HF than men so don’t ask your Doris about the bass pedals. A good test is set the KB on Hammond sound set the transpose up high and see if some of the top notes disappear when you play them, then get your wife to see if she can hear them and then go the see the audiologist.
Tony
Tony, I had my hearing tested this past December, and me and neighbor's dog howl at the same time when we hears a siren....but, if'n I don't get to go and get TWD's headphones, I'm still gonna get some Marmite from him...can't get it here on Cape Breton Island...must be one of them there mainlander products...I can put a little in me ears when the sirens start bothering me again, and even feed some to the neighbour's dog.  When you're married you develop a special kind of hearing.... selective hearing...Ha Ha! Ian PS...I have a buddy with hearing problems...he told me he bought a cheap hearing aid...I asked him, "What kind is it?" He looked at his watch and said, "It's 3 o'clock."
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#322744 - 04/25/11 09:10 AM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: Tony Hughes]
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Edited by Dnj (04/25/11 09:18 AM)
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#322748 - 04/25/11 09:41 AM
Re: Tony on the XK1
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Jimmy Smith used bass pedals a lot...especially for accenting the left hand bassline.
Tony is an excellent player, and probably a very nice guy, but he's not quite in Jimmy Smith's league, in my opinion.
Smith was an original and an innovator...Tony has obviously been influenced by him, and has copped some of Smith's style, but he's not a pioneer like Jimmy.
Maybe someday.
Ian
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#322760 - 04/25/11 10:11 AM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: Scottyee]
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Jimmy Smith to 16 yo Tony Monaco: "Don't worry about playing all them notes, learn how to play the right chords"  Great, and wise, advice by Jimmy, for sure. Hey, it's easy to play any musical instrument: all you have to do is touch the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself. Ian
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#322854 - 04/26/11 09:08 AM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: Dnj]
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Edited by Dnj (04/26/11 09:14 AM)
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#322866 - 04/26/11 10:52 AM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: captain Russ]
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I enjoy all visits to shows where Tony demos for Hammond; I've seen him many times. I've seen Jimmy Smith a good number of times, too.
Tony is no Jimmy. But, he's a really nice guy (a lot nicer than Jimmy) and is the current "standard bearer", so ya gotta like that!
R. I've never met Tony, but I did meet Jimmy many years ago...he was dabbling with the Yamaha Electone FX-10 and was considering endorsing one of the Electone series. That fell through, but I had been in Toronto on an Electone teacher's seminar at the same time, and was at the same table with him and the rest of the Yamaha crew in the hotel restaurant later on. Very nice guy indeed, very confident, and very witty...I remember him telling stories about carrying his old chopped Hammond in an old Cadillac hearse when he was just getting started, and his friendly rivalry with Groove Holmes...a very entertaining and personable guy indeed. Nice to see both in a person...great player, and nice human being. Ian
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#322913 - 04/26/11 04:18 PM
Re: Tony on the XK1
[Re: Tonewheeldude]
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You can clearly see the drawbar combinations he used on the night and he did not touch them at all except to switch between banks A & B. AND...he used fast Leslie only ONCE during the whole evening! He was a master of understatement.
I've listened to a lot of Jimmy Smith, and yes, you're right, he was a master of understatement. That's why it's so hard for other organists to duplicate him. Jimmy used the fast Leslie like they use fireworks...the big stuff at the end. It's like Floyd Cramer...same idea...very understated...people I hear trying to imitate him (including me) tend to overplay his style. It's like the old saying, " "You spend the first 20 years learning what to play, and the next 20 years learning what NOT to play." Ian
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