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#324079 - 05/12/11 11:09 PM KN7000 - Scarcity
Tony Deaf Offline
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Registered: 09/17/07
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Loc: Staffordshire, England
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Hello Members,

As I have reported on these hallowed pages some time ago - the prices of 'Top End' Technics have been rapidly appreciating on Ebay.

The KN7000 has risen in price by about 300 Pounds from around 650 to 750 pounds to 1050 (1700 US Dollars) in the last 6 months! I assumed, and posted here that I thought that this price 'hike' was due to them being discovered again and being highly sought after by discerning users ........... WRONG !!!

Heres why .....

I recently bought a KN2600 to be used in conjunction with our (my wife and I) KN7000. To cut a long story a little shorter - I was really disappointed with the 2600, for many reasons, even though it was in perfect condition.

This week, I decided I would sell it on Ebay, and in particular was 'harassed' by a buyer in Indonesia - as I specified COLLECTION ONLY. He even rang me at 5am. Next thing, my 'Buy It Now' Price was bid, by a well known Yamaha Dealer, who is going to collect it tomorrow - and ship it to - Guess where ?? ....... Indonesia !!! He is paying me 450 pounds, which is about 70 Pounds more than the average Ebay Price, and 80 Pounds more than I bought it for. Add on to that this UK dealers commision, packing and shipping, and it must have cost the Indonesian guy about 700 pounds (1100 US Dollars) as a guesstimate - which is twice its UK Value !! !!

I then looked at the Indonesian Buyers feedback on Ebay, and in the last 12 months, he has bought 41 KN7000's and 13 KN2600s in UK. The actual number will be much higher, as he will have other people in UK (or dealers), buying them for him (PX's for example). My friend in Essex sold to another buyer in Indonesia a KN7000 for 1050 pounds (1700 US Dollars) some months ago, so I wondered why this is happening. Answer - they are renting them out to players in the hundreds of Bars out there, and they stick to the one keyboard as if one fails, they have spares for just the one set of circuit boards to replace.

With all these keyboards leaving UK, their 'scarcity value' and the fact they are regarded by many as still being a 'Top' Keyboard, will continue to make the value of these keyboards rise still further, I would think.

Is this a good or a bad thing, folks ?? ..... Well, its bad for me, as I was planning to buy a second KN7000 so we have one each, and I am going to have to pay 'Top Dollar' - Possibly well over 1000 Pounds, but those keyboards we already have, will hold their price for years to come, or even appreciate further in value. But we will never sell them, will we ?

Kind regards,

John
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#324088 - 05/13/11 01:55 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
The Saint Offline
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Registered: 10/29/07
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Loc: Sydney Australia
Hi Tony, very interesting topic. I watched e-bay for about 6 months before my one appeared, I paid $1500 Oz and my brother paid $3200 at auction on e-bay just a few weeks later. There were a few around at that time but they have absolutely dried up now.
If I ever decide to GO !!! I will have mine mounted on the casket with a buy now price on it. Ha Ha
Ray dance
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#324097 - 05/13/11 08:06 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
peter b Offline
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Registered: 12/24/10
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Loc: nottinghamshire, UK
There are 2 KN7's on Ebay at the moment:
One has reached a bid of £530.00. (ware: Hertfordshire)3 bids
and the other has a starting price of £775(Oxford) No Bids as yet.
I know one of the dealers who deals with Indonesia, as I bought my KN7 from that dealer and had to pay a little over the odds but was happy with the deal.

Peter B

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#324104 - 05/13/11 10:27 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
Tony Deaf Offline
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Registered: 09/17/07
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Loc: Staffordshire, England
Hi Peter,

I Bet you, if they are mint (ish!) - they will fetch over 950 GB Pounds when the Auction ends. More and more people are using Auction Snipe programs, to get a bid in at the last couple of seconds.

My guess is that dealer will be the one who bought this one off me !! Roger! - Over and Out !! LOL

John


Edited by Tony Deaf (05/13/11 10:31 AM)
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#324107 - 05/13/11 11:26 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
There is one KN7000 on EBay for $2,000. It has received 7 bids and has 2 days and 4 hours. It is located in Media, Penn. USA.

It is interesting to watch the bidding in the last hours.

John C.

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#324108 - 05/13/11 12:28 PM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
Bernie9 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5521
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
Eventhough a good many units were sold while Technics was in business, I still think it was a sleeper. The magority of the people did not realize what the KN7000 really was.

Everytime I am getting ready for a show with it, I marvel at the things I can do so easily, and that doesn't account for the many things it can do I don't know about after nine years.
Bernie
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#324111 - 05/13/11 12:54 PM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Bernie9]
peter b Offline
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Registered: 12/24/10
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Loc: nottinghamshire, UK
Bernie.
I agree, it is still full of surprises, even after nine/ten years.

John.
You may be right! it will be well worth watching.

Peter B

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#324115 - 05/13/11 03:52 PM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: peter b]
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Sometimes I find myself staring at my Kn7000 and wondering if it will give up in the near future; it is aging. Looks good, sounds good but it is still aging.

Then I look in the mirror and I remember; what we have is today –both of u,s and so I play until I’m full, and I do walk away smiling.

John C.

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#324131 - 05/13/11 08:06 PM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
tassiespirit Offline
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Registered: 01/25/08
Posts: 554
Loc: Devonport, Tasmania, Australia
Only thing on Ebay at present is a KN6500 for $1000 no bids and 4 days left on the clock.


Allan
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#324136 - 05/14/11 01:38 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
RMepstead Offline
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Someone mention my name...Roger...
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#324176 - 05/14/11 05:08 PM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: tassiespirit]
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
There is a Kn7000 on EBay. It has 24 hours 8 min. and 16 seconds to go. It is located in Media, PA USA.

The price so far, $2,000.

John C.

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#324227 - 05/15/11 05:27 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: RMepstead]
Tony Deaf Offline
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Posts: 93
Loc: Staffordshire, England
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Wrong 'Roger', Roger !!

Is that a Roger ??

This 'Roger' is a Wodger Wabbit who lives on the banks of the River Trent in Nottingham.

Here is a picture of me trying to catch him last Easter, when I needed an Easter Bunny ....





Keep smiling !!


John
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#324257 - 05/15/11 07:22 PM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: bruno123]
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
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Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
I did a search in EBay and found another Kn7000. It was listed as SX-KN7000 SX-KN7000. Prive, $2,000
Location; Murfreesboro, Tennessee, USA.
One day – 3 hours left to bid.

John C.

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#324335 - 05/17/11 03:32 PM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
Audrey Turner Offline
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Registered: 03/19/02
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Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Last Friday I did my annual WW2 Reunion gig and because my T4 is still very unpredictable, I took the KN7000 and connected it to the new 'QTX Sound System' (recently bought from the OKC Music Festival and it's first public performance). The KN7000 was a pleasure to play and the QTX really complemented the KN7 to such an extent that this year's event was voted as "the best yet"

For me, that says it all!

Audrey

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#324385 - 05/18/11 09:17 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Audrey Turner]
etwo4788 Offline
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 518
Loc: S.E. New Mexico USA
JOHN C..... Have you purchased that listed 7K? Do you now have 2 7K's?

AUDREY.... That is great that your performance was voted "best yet"... It is always wonderful to receive applause in every form! It amazes me when I read/hear that additional sound systems provide a greater experience with the 7K. I have only added a sub-woofer to mine and sometimes it is too much. I turn it off more than on...

I do know that when the venue changes, the sound quality is very different. The accustics at my home and at the gig make it necessary to constantly make changes....and of course the number of people in the room also make a difference.

There is just no sameness to the situation at all! It seems to me that no matter the additional sound system, the continuity of sound is always changing!

Comments anyone?

Elizabeth

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#324533 - 05/19/11 06:45 PM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: etwo4788]
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
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Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Elizabeth,
You’re good, and so right about conditions always changing.

No, I did not buy a second Kn7, I thought if – (Heaven forbid) – my Kn7 broke down I would come and borrow yours. (Grin)

Really enjoying music, John C

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#324611 - 05/21/11 01:07 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
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Registered: 03/19/02
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Loc: Cambridge, Cambs, England
Hello Elizabeth,

Yes! you're right about venue accoustics. I try to arrive early and then, when all is setup, I play a 'pre recorded' song. If any changes are needed, the Reverb section is the first place I go to. This is usually all that is needed.

However, I cannot take all the credit for the 'best ever' night, because of course, there are other people involved in this annual event without whom, it would never happen, but thank you for your compliment anyway.

The only reason I changed from the Yamaha PAS 300 (now for sale) to the QTX Sound System, is because it is completely portable with 'pull up' handle and wheels (similar to a travel suitcase). Both my husband and myself are now of a very senior age and need all the help we can get with transporting the gear. I'm not going to tell you how old, but in England we have a saying which goes like this:- "I'm as old as my tongue and a little older than my teeth" ha! ha!

Audrey

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#324621 - 05/21/11 05:54 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Audrey Turner]
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Elizabeth, Audrey,
Have either of you ever tried the Bose Compact Amplifier? I have been using mine for 9 months and I am still amazed. Soooo, easy to carry and it shows no sign of distortion; and clear as a bell. Elizabeth, what sound system are you using? (And I have not forgotten what I was going to send you)

Audrey, I remember using the same type of sound check; Have my keyboard playing while a walked around the room, great. As far as the “Best Night ever”, the other people I think about is the people who have come to enjoy the event. Having the right people present is a must for a great night. Years ago I was booked to play a 4 hour job, by the end of the third there were no dancers. I played every winner song that I knew and no dancers. OUCH.

In the last 20 minutes two couples got up to dance to a fast song – they did a box step???
This was a religious group that did not favor dancing. And --- they never approached the bar for a drink. So we do need a good group of people who will appreciate what we do.

John C.

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#324706 - 05/22/11 10:02 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: Tony Deaf]
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 518
Loc: S.E. New Mexico USA
John & Audrey... The only gig I have is a NH where almost all the people are in wheelchairs. They do a lot of sleeping while I play. My 2nd 7K is stored there and set up ready to play when I arrive. All I have to carry is the SD card and my music!

The accustics in the dining room are deplorable, to say the least. The 5 speakers built into the 7K are all that I use. It seems to me that any additional speakers could only make the challenge of balancing the sound even greater than already exists! At home even the sub-woofer is more than needed.

Lunch is served during the music. The sounds of the servers talking, the clang of dishes and carts....lots of real noise! It is difficult to even hear the music I am playing!

My joy are the handful of residents who tell me how much they enjoy the music and how much they love me too! I have been doing this weekly gig for around 7 to 10 years. Many have left the NH, many are new residents. I have seen them move from canes and walkers to wheel chairs and then I don't see them anymore.

Audrey, thanks for mentioning the Reverb as a place to go when the sound needs some adjustment. Working with the sound in my Motor Home is so very different...lots of sound absorbing items that allow for greater volume than is possible at the NH! The great Spring weather, with windows, door & roof vents open, I can turn up the sound so my neighbors can hear! (They tell me they like it). It really is frustrating to work with the sound at home where the results are great, then they are not so great at the NH! Getting there early does not help, the room is always accustically awful!

John...I have not forgotten our agreement to share either! I still hold out hope that it will happen! As for loaning you my 2nd 7K....don't hold your breath! However, I will let you play either/both of them while you are visiting!

If anyone has additional suggestions, I would love to know!

Elizabeth

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#324709 - 05/22/11 11:46 AM Re: KN7000 - Scarcity [Re: etwo4788]
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
E l i z a b e t h, Great!!!!
I also have a woman who goes to sleep when we start playing; the only difference is that she used to play piano and although she is asleep both of her hands are moving in piano fashion. Not too long ago I was paid between $275 and $575 for a 2 or 3 hour job. It is now between $80 and $175 for an hour job. This seems fair because paying a use-to-have-it guy with far less energy -- so the pay seem right.
Thank God that my finances are pretty well in order; that leaves me with just the joy of the job. I must add that I found a different part of me playing at these NH. I started with approx. 15 people in the piano room. I am now up to 65 people. It is not very hard to love these people – they so appreciate what we do for them. I’m guessing that at times it is the only thing they have to look forward to.

The information Is 92% complete --- Stay healthy and keep playing your heart out, John C.

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