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#326734 - 06/18/11 11:02 AM O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk
Scottyee Offline
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I realize this is off topic, but think it's important enough to all of us to be posted here (at least initially).

CNN: Cell phone use can increase possible cancer risk

"Radiation from cell phones can possibly cause cancer, according to the World Health Organization.
The WHO now lists mobile phone use in the same 'carcinogenic hazard' category as lead, engine exhaust and chloroform.
Before this recent announcement last month, WHO had assured consumers that no adverse health effects had been established."
I wonder now if there's anything else we aren't being told about (yet)?

Based on this report, and the fact that different cell phone brand/models emit different anounts of SAR levels (RF absorbed by the body),
have you made any changes in your brand/model cell phone owned:

cnet:
Cell Phone Radiation Make & Model Radiation Levels

or the way you use it when talking (speakerphone, remote headset vs up to your ear)
or securing it (away from your body, vs in your front pants pocket)?

Will cell phone use by young people today be linked to developing (brain) cancer 30 years down the road,
the way cigarette smoking have been proven to greatly increase the risk for lung cancer,
or are we simply over reacting? confused1

Please share your thoughts and opinions.

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#326741 - 06/18/11 01:28 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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Scott,
Your eyes are much younger than mine, but I find that yellow font color a little blinding. Maybe it's just me, but it's not a link, and if you're just using it for extra emphasis ... I'd love to suggest a new color!
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#326744 - 06/18/11 01:53 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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Hi Scott,

I try never to agree with the old Uncle (just kidding, David) but I also find the yellow font color very difficult to read, and actually have to run the cursor over it to make it more legible.

As far as cell phones, I have yet to buy one, and so far haven't had the need for one, but it will be interesting to see the other comments, as I'm sure many here on SZ use them.

I have seen this warning before, perhaps a year or so ago, and often wondered if there was any truth in it.

I would also like to know if the same risk would apply to portable phones?

Ian

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#326749 - 06/18/11 03:59 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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Unfortunately it's too late to go back and edit my post now,
but I'll try to choose a less

confused2 blinding confused2

color next time.
In the meantime, slip these on:


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#326750 - 06/18/11 04:12 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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Blinding yellow text could possibly cause cancer .... wink bounce

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#326754 - 06/19/11 03:19 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Nigel]
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I have seen possible cancer warnings on probably all and everything out there..

Like eating to much meat, drinking anything else but water, Eating spinach...

With the improvement of receiving equipment, the transmitting power of the cellphones might be lwoered further... removing their hazardous character even further.

I would not worry about this..



And i could not live or work without my smartphone anymore. There is just to many important things running on it. Making phone calls (except emergency ones) is probably the least important function of it.
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#326762 - 06/19/11 07:32 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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Lol Bachus...i have 600 minutes on my cell and out of that i waste
like 25 minutes monthly...why do i have it? You know the story.
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#326803 - 06/20/11 02:02 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Bachus]
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Originally Posted By: Bachus
...And i could not live or work without my smartphone anymore. There is just to many important things running on it. Making phone calls (except emergency ones) is probably the least important function of it.


What all do you do with it?
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#326817 - 06/20/11 07:46 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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My cell phone died a few days ago (probably from cancer) and I damned near panicked. Then I thought to myself "What the Hell are you thinking?" I'm old enough to vividly recall when there were no cellular telephones, and back then I didn't really need a cell phone to do anything. My 40-year-old daughter never turns her phone off. It's her primary form of communication. I only turn MINE on when I need to call someone in an emergency, which is extremely rare. Far too many people in this part of the world live and DIE for, and because of, their cellular telephones.

I know entertainers that list their cellular phone numbers on their Web sites, business cards, pens, calendars, etc.., as if they could book a job on their cell and looking at their schedule, while driving 70 MPH in bumper to bumper traffic down a busy interstate. Some have their schedules on their phones. Try browsing through that schedule, reading that tiny, tiny print, using one hand, and of course never taking the other hand off the wheel, or never taking your eyes off the traffic on the Garden State Parkway, Long Island Expressway or I-95.

I was broadsided six years ago by an idiot that was talking on his cell phone and looking at a map resting on his steering wheel while driving south on I-95 near the Baltimore Beltway (I-695). I was on my way to a job, my van was totaled and the idiot that hit me didn't have insurance. Therefore, for all you guys and gals that insist you MUST have a cell phone at all times, try turning it off while driving--it's amazing how much nicer that drive is when you're just listening to some soft music on the radio. If you're anything like my daughter, though, you'll probably have a panic attack because the phone is not jammed in your ear, or worse yet, you'll miss a text message. wink

From my perspective, the risk of cancer from your cellular telephone is probably much lower than having an accident because of your cell phone. And of course, everyone knows this couldn't happen to them. wink

Cheers,

Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (06/20/11 07:48 AM)
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#326818 - 06/20/11 08:26 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: travlin'easy]
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Fact is, a cell phone is pretty much a 'necessary evil' ... when was the last time you saw a public pay phone???
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#326819 - 06/20/11 08:39 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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From Dr. Aaron Carroll:

"But...cellphones are so common that if they were dangerous right now, we’d be able to see the effect easily. That’s not happening. Future work will be needed to see whether they cause long-term harm, but as for now, there’s very little evidence that they do."

Read the Incidental Economist whole post here...
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#326820 - 06/20/11 10:00 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Bill in Dayton]
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Scott.

You could simply die of old age before the big "C" gets you!

If you knew where you were going to die you could simply avoid going there! Doh
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#326822 - 06/20/11 10:33 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: tony mads usa]
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Like I said, I use it when there's a problem--it essentially replaced the corner phone booths.

Gary cool
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#326855 - 06/20/11 09:29 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: travlin'easy]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Like I said, I use it when there's a problem--it essentially replaced the corner phone booths.

Gary cool


Garry,

A mobile phone is much more than that, you can annoy the crap out of passengers on a train when you are texting for hours with the key beep on, much worse that the big “C”.
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#326868 - 06/21/11 06:14 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
I only turn MINE on when I need to call someone in an emergency, which is extremely rare. Far too many people in this part of the world live and DIE for, and because of, their cellular telephones.

Cheers,

Gary cool


But what if someone is trying to call YOU in an emergency? You'll never know if your phone is off.

There are times I can't answer, but I always leave my cell phone on and let the voice mail relay the emergency, or my Hollywood audition results.


Cellphone Cancer? Possibly... if you hooked it up to a rat's ear 24/7 nonstop for 18 years.
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#326872 - 06/21/11 06:48 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: lahawk]
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Quote:
But what if someone is trying to call YOU in an emergency?
...Like when I need help with the 3000 wink

Larry

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#326873 - 06/21/11 07:23 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: lahawk]
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Larry,

I usually turn on the phone when I get to a gig to see if someone called my home phone, which is rarely the case. I turn it on while I'm sailing on Chesapeake Bay and the only folks that call are those that want me to solve their keyboard problems. I did get a call a couple years ago about a job, but I was already booked to go sailing so I turned them down. Besides, I was 5 days sailing time away in Virginia Beach and couldn't have made it home in time for the job.

Larry, if I recall correctly, you're an old fart just like me. What did you do when an emergency arose prior to cellular telephones? In my case, someone always seemed to be able to track me down. No beepers, no cell phones, just letting someone know where I would be and how to get in touch was all it took. Once, prior to call waiting, I was on the phone talking with an old friend when the operator broke in with an emergency call from the hospital where I worked. Three minutes later I was traveling down I-83 at a high rate of speed and was in the operating room 30 minutes later.

I had similar emergency situation while fishing in the middle of Chesapeake Bay early one morning--again prior to cellular phones and beepers. There were four of us on my boat and we were really into the stripers when a U.S. Coast Guard helicopter arrived on the scene. A young man with a bull horn told me I was needed immediately at the hospital. I pulled the anchor, returned to shore and drove to the hospital. After four hours in the operating room I took a shower, got in the car and drove back to the marina where the crew was patiently awaiting my return. While I was gone they consumed most of the beer, all the food, and insisted that it was my fault and that I had to spring for the replacement beer and food, which I did.

If someone really needs to reach you in an emergency--they will find you one way or another. I would really like to see some statistics pertaining to cellular telephone usage and their contribution to automobile accidents. I give you pretty good odds that the mortality rate from cell phone related accidents is thousands of times higher than anyone contracting cancer from any source.

I believe the sad part about all this is we, as taxpayers, funded this idiotic study that probably took several years, and is likely an ongoing study that will continue forever. As was posted above, the phone was probably strapped to a rat's head for 18 years. Hmmm! Wonder if the rat booked any jobs or gets emergency calls? wink

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#326883 - 06/21/11 10:34 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Larry,

I usually turn on the phone when I get to a gig to see if someone called my home phone, which is rarely the case. I turn it on while I'm sailing on Chesapeake Bay and the only folks that call are those that want me to solve their keyboard problems. I did get a call a couple years ago about a job, but I was already booked to go sailing so I turned them down. Besides, I was 5 days sailing time away in Virginia Beach and couldn't have made it home in time for the job.

Larry, if I recall correctly, you're an old fart just like me. What did you do when an emergency arose prior to cellular telephones? In my case, someone always seemed to be able to track me down. No beepers, no cell phones, just letting someone know where I would be and how to get in touch was all it took. Once, prior to call waiting, I was on the phone talking with an old friend when the operator broke in with an emergency call from the hospital where I worked. Three minutes later I was traveling down I-83 at a high rate of speed and was in the operating room 30 minutes later.

I had similar emergency situation while fishing in the middle of Chesapeake Bay early one morning--again prior to cellular phones and beepers. There were four of us on my boat and we were really into the stripers when a U.S. Coast Guard helicopter arrived on the scene. A young man with a bull horn told me I was needed immediately at the hospital. I pulled the anchor, returned to shore and drove to the hospital. After four hours in the operating room I took a shower, got in the car and drove back to the marina where the crew was patiently awaiting my return. While I was gone they consumed most of the beer, all the food, and insisted that it was my fault and that I had to spring for the replacement beer and food, which I did.

If someone really needs to reach you in an emergency--they will find you one way or another. I would really like to see some statistics pertaining to cellular telephone usage and their contribution to automobile accidents. I give you pretty good odds that the mortality rate from cell phone related accidents is thousands of times higher than anyone contracting cancer from any source.

I believe the sad part about all this is we, as taxpayers, funded this idiotic study that probably took several years, and is likely an ongoing study that will continue forever. As was posted above, the phone was probably strapped to a rat's head for 18 years. Hmmm! Wonder if the rat booked any jobs or gets emergency calls? wink

Cheers,

Gary cool



Gary,

Do you do brain surgery, I think I may need it soon with all this. Gary you were away 4 hours and they did not consume all the beer, how much beer did you take with you, did you consume any beer before the operation. Gary how did the pilot of the helicopter know where to find you. These are all the questions that will need to be answered if you want to turn this into a film, if I think of any more questions I will be back.

Tony
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#326889 - 06/21/11 12:15 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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Gary,

We tried calling your cell to award you the $100,000 prize, but no one answered.
Sorry...had to move on to the next contestant on the list.

It could happen



Actually when we went on vacation last year, I left the cell phone in the room. Was nice to relax on Virginia Beach without the cell (but I did feel like something was missing)

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#326896 - 06/21/11 01:26 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: lahawk]
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Let's bring our troops home instead of this silly cell phone nonsense.


Edited by Dnj (06/21/11 01:30 PM)

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#326897 - 06/21/11 01:35 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Let's bring our troops home instead of this silly cell phone nonsense.

Ok Donny, 'now' you're talking. rocker
I concur with you regarding bringing home our troops. clap

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#326899 - 06/21/11 01:50 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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Hey Donny...you don't have to worry about sun burn on your nose...
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#326901 - 06/21/11 02:22 PM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Scottyee]
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Tony,

Back then, which was about the same time John Paul Jones joined the navy, I worked at University of Maryland Hospital as a Chief Cardio-Pulmonary Technician. I ran the pump-oxygenator (Heart/Lung Machine) for open-heart and cardio-vascular surgery. I did this for both University of Maryland Hospital and Johns Hopkins Hospital, and trained at the National Institute of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Maryland. It was a high-stress job, and I was on call 24/7. I lasted 15 years, which is a long time in that business.

During the early 1960s I also managed to save enough money to purchase an old, well-built, 30-foot, cabin cruiser. On the transom of the boat was my wife's name in large, black letters, which could easily be seen from several hundred yards away. When the hospital called to determine my whereabouts, my loving wife told them "He's out fishing aboard his boat at the north end of the Dumping Grounds," a great location that held lots of stripers. It was a weekday and there were less than a dozen boats at that location, so the Coast Guard had no trouble at all finding me.

Unfortunately, only a single case of National Bohemian Beer was purchased, and the guys that fished with me regularly had no problem consuming a case of Natty-Bo in the blink of an eye. Tony, if you've ever owned a boat you would know these things. Now that I own a sailboat, which is a lot slower, and not something that is set up for fishing, it's mostly the ladies that want to go out on the water with me--not that this is a bad thing.

When you get around to writing the book, and eventually turn it into a movie, I WANT ROYALTIES! wink

BTW: Here's a photo of the new boat.



Cheers,

Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (06/21/11 02:25 PM)
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#326951 - 06/22/11 09:31 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: travlin'easy]
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Cheers Gary,

Have you heard of the saying, the two happiest people in the World is a person buying a boat and the person selling the boat. Hi sailor, ship ahoy!!
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#326953 - 06/22/11 09:36 AM Re: O/T: Cell Phone Can Increase Possible Cancer Risk [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Let's bring our troops home instead of this silly cell phone nonsense.



Bloody hell Donny, bring back the garden griddle photo or the spinning ball, this one just scared the hell of my wife and the kids, please.

Anyway I thought you were off, I knew you would peek, you just don't want anyone to catch up to those big numbers, no one ever will, no one can live that long, even the junior members.



Edited by Tony Hughes (06/22/11 09:37 AM)
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