Yes, the speaker system also makes a big difference, and reading the specs should give the prospective buyer a good indication just what to expect.

I found it hard to hear the PSR speakers in a restaurant with low noise level, so even a medium loud bar would be way too much to expect the "home " system to compete with.

PSR on board speakers are for home use only.

Ian

Actually, the speakers work perfectly for the intended use, which is a "home environment".

To expect such small speakers, and relatively low power (easily read in the specs) to work on stage is going way beyond the keyboard's intended usage. I'm sure the person who sold it to you, if they were using it on stage, would have (or should have) mentioned it.

I've had zero complaints of PSR-S910 speaker quality and performance from home users.

You'd have been better off keeping the PA-800 and getting it refurbished.

Ian

Dave ... I have been here for ten years! I think I know what you are after. You like Korg ... yes?? Well the Pa3x with the PaAs is what you need. I would "EAT MY Pa3x" if you were not satisfied!!! The sound is "THAT' good!!!

Dave, your family looks awesome, and that's what it's all about.

Joe

Dave, I knew all along a Yamaha arranger wasn't going to satisfy you long, and that its the Korg arrangers that have those features so critically important to you :
TC Helicon VH, larger size keys, optional LH/RH chord recognition, and a cool chord sequencer to boot.
The optional must have $499 PaAS add-on speaker should deliver just what you need as an onstage monitor too.
I know there's a PA3X with your name on it waiting for you somewhere out there, so do yourself a favor and go buy it.
Please post a review for us as well.

Dave, nice group shot of your kids.
Who's 'who' in the pict? I can definitely see the family resemblance.
and have an idea now what you might have looked like with hair.

funnily enough the pa3x speaker system is a step backwards from the Korg PA1x speaker system so its not just yamaha that seems to downgrade useful features in their upgraded instruments

Very few manufactures actually make their own speakers for arranger keyboards; they just stick their badge on speakers of the manufacture that gives them the best deal. (Pretty much the same applies to stands and seats etc.)

Do a search on the web and you can usually find who makes them, and thus buy them (Minus the keyboard manufactures badge of course) a lot cheaper.

Bill

Ah, my kids ... my lifeline...my rocks to reality. Scott, all three girls are from Donna, my wife of almost 20 years, and a really wonderful woman, that I sadly, did not deserve. I was lucky to have had her for the time I did. Top left-right is Kelly(25)& Ally(18)Bottom row, Chris (34) and Kate(22). Chris is from my "student wedding". We were young, and in love and had no idea how the whole "life" thing worked, but we had Christopher and everything seems to fall into place. I have no regrets about my past relationships - they all played a part in bringing me to the place I am at now, and that is as close to the secret of life as I can surmise. Even my fiasco of a midlife crisis (now known as "the Miami hurricane") had a positive result - it led to a reunion with my Ex (Donna) that put all our loose ends to rest and allowed us both to move on with less baggage. She's happier now, and that makes me happy.

As for keyboards ... well, you're all right in your own way.
Yes, I knew the speakers were weak. (weaker than they should be even for home use, if you sing)
No, I didn't expect to love it or want to keep it forever, but it is a means to an end.
No, I don't have my 800 anymore - traded it to GC during their crazy trade weekend this month and it sold to someone in Mexico right away. I had the button fixed, and it was in nice condition for it's age.
Yes, I'll most likely want a PA3x when I see one, but I am in no rush. I'll just carry a monitor for a while. Summer is almost over, and things calm down for me after that as I get into "school mode". The kids are my priority now, and the kb will enjoy a rest until my Fall Saturday schedule starts in again.

I want to say one last thing, and I hope it comes out right:
I want to extend an olive branch to my neighbor from the north, Ian. We hardly ever agree, but that's common in an environment like this where emotion is shadowed by emoticons and type fonts. He's a passionate dude, and probably alot like me in many ways - maybe that's why we clash so much. I'm going to stop avoiding your posts, and try to be nicer. Hatchet is buried on the Canada/US border.


Many of us have had our scrapes over the years, but the thing that usually smooths things over is a quick phone call or a meeting. When you meet in person - it's often very different. We all sound more vain in type than we really are ... it's the nature of writing. We're in control ... in command ... no one to answer to. Well, I personally am exhausted from wasting energy on negative thoughts, so Ian ... if you're reading - Give me a call someday. 215-284-1328.
Better still - take a trip down south and check out my Phillies ... we'll be world champs again very soon! (It's ll be so sweet if it's Boston that we play too.)

OK .... off to a wedding. 100% DJ or trax today ... 25 year old brides ... sheesh.

Thanks for the kind words Dave, but I really never felt we "clashed"...I feel it is more like normal differences of opinion that is quite likely to happen on a forum such as this, where everyone uses different brands and different approaches to playing.

I don't consider myself a good enough player to be vain, and I'm just grateful I have a gift of some sort to be able to play music to the level I do, and to enjoy the benefits of an arranger keyboard, but I am passionate about the company I am fortunate enough to work for (that's just part of working for a great company), so I will always defend an injustice or a undeserved slight against them.

I certainly do not bear any grudges or ill feeling (towards anyone), as I consider that a complete waste of my precious time and energy, so I hope you see there was no "hatchet" needed to be buried in the first place, at least from my side of things.

There is not one person on this forum, or a former member of this forum, that I have any ill feelings toward, whatsoever.

I always speak my mind, and I try to do it as diplomatic as possible, and within the rules of the forum, and if this place ever became a site where we all agreed and were never "at odds" once in a while, it would be a very boring place to be, and it would not enjoy the popularity that it has developed over the years.

Keep playing and keep posting, and good luck with whatever instrument you decide on using.

Ian

Dave,
Gorgeous family ... If you would ever need to borrow a PA800 let me know. I have been using it only about a dozen times a year, that is of course, if you saved all your info to a thumb drive.
Ciao,
Jerry