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#331278 - 09/05/11 05:08 PM How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
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Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Wondering what's worked for you best, in person, phone, direct mail, ect.

If you use a promo pack, what seemed to be most effective?

I'm going to start adding some more gigs. I've been kind of spoiled the last few years as most of my work is by referral rocker

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#331284 - 09/05/11 08:54 PM Re: How to get best results prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
cassp Offline
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Scott, I've always felt that 'in person' is the best way to catch a new NH client. After that, I prefer direct mail, either snail or email - both work equally well. Surprisingly, I've had AD's who have changed locations and then called me to play at the new location. I've also had call from referrals, but not that often. Of all techniques, in person is best. I usually supply my contacts with a demo CD, often they'll let residents listen and give their input; worked well for me. I always supply my website because there are many more demo songs there then I put on my disc. BTW, I try to keep songs at 40-60 seconds only, and keep the total demo to 10 minutes or less. Good luck
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#331303 - 09/06/11 08:32 AM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
I posted the article below in 2009 on the PSR-Tutorial forum. The part about retirement still holds, and if my health holds out I intend to head in that direction in October of 2012. My 2012 calendar is nearly full at this point, and by the end of this week I will have booked monthly jobs from 25 locations.

Here's the 2009 article:

I'm in the process of heading slowly toward retirement, and I'm down to about 160 jobs this year. Last year I booked 357 and turned down an equal number because of scheduling conflicts.

The best technique I've found for booking jobs at nursing homes, assisted living centers, retirement communities, senior centers, and similar venues has been direct mail. However, you need to do more than just send a flier to a perspective client and hope for the best--it doesn't work that way. Here's what worked for me.

Create Advertising Package

First, I sat down at the computer and using Print Shop, put together a very attractive series of advertising packages. They ranged from simple cards, to fliers, to full blown packages that cost about $4 to compile. The full-blown package used a dark-blue presentation folder (available at Staples) with a photo inserted in the cover. Inside, there was a letter of introduction with exerts from various satisfied clients, 4-page song list, a 6 to 8-song CD and a business card inserted in the card slot. This cost nearly $2 to mail, which puts the package cost at approximately $6.

Make Simple Card or Flier

A simple card, or one-page flier, again compiled and printed using Print Shop, is a lot less expensive, can be mailed in a 6 X 9 Calendar envelope and requires only a single first class postage stamp. They too are quite effective.

Contact the Right Person

The secret to success, though, is to get the information to the right person, otherwise it will end up in the trash-can along with the tons of junk mail they receive every day. This was done by calling each facility on my mailing list and obtaining the name of the activities director (AD). This was easy. I merely called the facility and said:

"Hi, this is Gary Diamond from Travlin' Easy Productions. We're updating our computer files on the various centers in the Baltimore metropolitan area and just need to verify the information we have on file."

At this point I would provide them with the mailing address I have in my computer, then ask about the number of beds or residents, and the name, and the correct spelling of the name, of the Activities Director. Now, you have the information to get your advertising package to the right person. I usually updated the list every 6 to 12 months, just to keep it current.

Follow-up Your Mailing

The next part of the process is the follow-up to the mailing. After allowing about 5 to 7 days for the package to arrive, pick up the telephone and call the person you mailed the package to. Once you have him or her on the telephone, ask them if they received your package. If the answer was yes, tell them you are putting together your schedule for next month or next year, whatever the case may be, and you would like to meet with them to set up an entertainment schedule for their facility. Some, ironically, will actually offer to do it over the phone, while others will set up a meeting at the facility.

Become a 'Salesperson'

I prefer meeting the AD in person, which then allows me to take a close look at the facility as well. (For a variety of reasons, there are some locations where I just will not perform.) At this point, you must become a salesperson. And, as any successful salesperson will tell you, you must dress for the occasion. In most instances you should wear the same apparel you would normally wear if you were going for a job interview.

Put Together A 'Formal' Schedule

Sit down with the AD, and with your scheduling calendar, put together a schedule that fits both your and their needs. Once the jobs have been scheduled, go back to your home office, sit down at the computer and compile a "Confirmation of Appearance" letter that lists all dates, locations and times of the upcoming performances. Again, Print Shop makes this an easy job that looks very professional and businesslike. Send two copies of the confirmation to the AD, along with a SASE, have them sign one of the letters and mail that copy back to you. In some instances, I actually use one of my contracts and list all the performance dates on one contract. It's a bit more formal, and it provides the client(s) with clear descriptions of the various exclusions within the contract.

Stay in Touch With Customers

Once the client has been booked, they are placed on another mailing list I have compiled. This is one that I use for sending wall calendars, pens, Christmas cards, and other forms of advertisement that keeps my name high on their list. They're purchased from National Pen Company and over the years have proven very effective. Because my name is on their wall calendar, and the pen they use daily, I'm one of the first entertainers they call when it comes time for special events, parties that command a much higher fee. The calendars only cost me a little over $1 and about .25 cents for the fancy envelope. Most of the time I deliver the calendars in person, usually in late August or early September, and at the same time, book the upcoming year's entire schedule. The pens cost about .39 to .49 cents apiece and can be mailed out with the cards and packages. If you want a great calendar that can be mailed at a reasonable price, pocket planners sell for about .60 cents and can be mailed in a standard #10 envelope.

For those of you who may be wondering where all these senior places are located in your area of the United States, Click Here. You'll be amazed at how many centers are located within an hour or less drive time from your home.

While everyone believes competition is high in their particular area, keep in mind that most of the individuals providing entertainment are not full time entertainers. Some can only work nights and weekends, which means there are huge numbers of locations where you can work weekdays. Provide them with a great show, act professional, schmooze with the residents, and your calendar will be so full you will have to book your own vacation two years in advance.

Hope this helps,
Gary
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#331305 - 09/06/11 08:49 AM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
travlin'easy Offline
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Almost forgot. This year I purchased post cards from Vista-Print for an unbelievably low price of $6.25 for 100 cards. The cards are very attractive, high-gloss, custom printed on both sides, and proved very effective. The cost of mailing a post card is still just 29-cents, which helps keep the advertising budget low.

Vista-Print also provided me with outstanding business cards at an incredibly low price as well. Both the post cards and business cards arrived ahead of schedule, and I highly recommend their services.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#331314 - 09/06/11 12:42 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
124 Offline
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Registered: 01/01/09
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My wife does all our promo/booking stuff - I just get to sing and play the toons. Yeahhh!!

We used to do the 'in person' thing, but it's just too time consuming and a hassle punting around all over the city. Then we went the 'phone/mail the promo brochure/CD route'. Half the time people don't even bother listening to the CD, they just throw it in the glovebox in the car and it gets lost among all the gas receipts, store coupons, etc.

So what we do now is on the inital phone contact we ask if they have an e-mail address (most have) and, after giving them an overview of what we're about, would they like to receive our e-mail package. This consists of our brochure, a couple of You Tube links, and, if they want it, a songlist (which is in a constant state of flux, anyway).

We have about a 95% success rate with this way of doing things and it sure beats schlepping all over the place the old way. It's an instant world now and putting everything in an e-mail, well, they're sitting at their computer anyway so it's just a couple of clicks away. Works for us.

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#331323 - 09/06/11 02:38 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: 124]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
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Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Thanx for the input.

124 could you send me the email that you use please?

Gary, any way you can email me the stuff you have mentioned?

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#331326 - 09/06/11 03:49 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Scott,

I'll snail-mail it to you in the next few days.

Gary cool
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!

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#331329 - 09/06/11 05:33 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
124 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Scott Langholff
Thanx for the input.

124 could you send me the email that you use please?

Gary, any way you can email me the stuff you have mentioned?



Scott, you've got mail.

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#331339 - 09/06/11 10:34 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: 124]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Thanx guys.

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#331369 - 09/07/11 01:19 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
captain Russ Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
I approach things differently. I use my restaurant gigs to "fish" for higher paid private gigs (individual, government...mayors office, governors office, local colleges and universities, etc.) and to try to make contacts for my day business (film production, print, photography, PR, etc.).

I figure a good day client is worth a minimum of $100,000 in billing a year. I NEED the exposure at the upscale, but public venues.

I have never done any direct marketing of my services at all.
We have no "account executives" or other sales representation.

I frequent the finer establishments...both those I have played before and those I would like to work and entertain there (usually for lunch-late-around 1:00 PM when management has a minute to stop by and visit). About every 4th time, I pick up a little job (a publicity release, alteration to a menu or web-site...product photography, a TV commercial,etc.).Frankly, these are jobs I wouldn't fool with normally, but it keeps the door open. About every 10th time (twice a month) there is a serious discussion about a possibility of playing at the establishment.

Lexington has been called the biggest "one horse town" in the country. You're either "in or out". Luckily, I'm associated with "society" music and get the call for most "horse" related and other society events.

At my restaurant gigs, people comment on the work I have done for the establishment. I convert that to corporate/organization work when possible. the obvious advantage is the chance to promote sound scores and the importance of superior audio in film work.

Two years ago, I took a job a private club. Last Christmas season, the jobs were light, because people called or visited the last restaurant I played and new staff members didn't know where I was. I'm working on changing that now.

My 5 biggest daytime clients (including a leading automobile manufacturer and one of the biggest international horse breeding operations) came from this little "fishing" process.

Point is, this works for me. It works in this location for this section of the market.

What works for you will be different. The challenge is to find the mix...


R.
(Part-time University Professor-Marketing/Communications).


Edited by captain Russ (09/07/11 01:29 PM)

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#331376 - 09/07/11 04:16 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: travlin'easy]
Jerry T Offline
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Registered: 09/23/05
Posts: 1002
Loc: Phila. 'burbs, Pa. USA
I like the idea of sending postcards. I'd be interested in knowing what copy you use on a post card. I tend to get a little wordy. A post card seems a little restrictive. Thanks.
Ciao,
Jerry

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#331378 - 09/07/11 04:43 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Jerry,

On the front of the card there's a neat background scene of a tropical island with a single palm tree on the right side of the card.

On the left side of the card in bold, fancy, script, white lettering it says:

Enjoy the music of
Travlin' Easy
Gary Diamond

NOW BOOKING FOR 2012

(My telephone number in large, bold letters)

Prime dates still available!


On the back of the card is where it has my return address in smaller, bold, white letters over another background photo that's B&W.

Beneath my address is:

When you want the very best in musical entertainment!

Now booking for 2012

(My telephone number)


The right side of the card's back is white and it's where I place the mailing label and stamp.

If you want the real thing, email me your snail mail address and I'll be happy to mail you, or anyone else one.

Gary cool
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!

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#331380 - 09/07/11 04:54 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: travlin'easy]
Jerry T Offline
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Registered: 09/23/05
Posts: 1002
Loc: Phila. 'burbs, Pa. USA
Thanks Gary,
No photo of you on the card?
Ciao,
Jerry

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#331384 - 09/07/11 06:54 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
They'll use your graphics, but it'll cost ya' a lot more.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!

K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)

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#331396 - 09/08/11 11:00 AM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: 124]
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
124,

Just got an email from DNJ who requests that you email him your email package to him at onemanband52@yahoo.com and while your at it, send one to me as well at travlin_easy@verizon.net

Thanks,

Gary cool
_________________________
PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!

K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)

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#331398 - 09/08/11 11:53 AM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
124 Offline
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Registered: 01/01/09
Posts: 2195
Will do, Gary. Just about out the door now on a NH gig. I'll fire these off tonight to you.

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#343457 - 04/10/12 07:45 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: 124]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Originally Posted By: 124
This consists of our brochure, a couple of You Tube links, and, if they want it, a songlist (which is in a constant state of flux, anyway).

We have about a 95% success rate with this way of doing things and it sure beats schlepping all over the place the old way. It's an instant world now and putting everything in an e-mail, well, they're sitting at their computer anyway so it's just a couple of clicks away. Works for us.



124 I'd love to see those you tube links you mentioned above can you post them or email them to me? Thanks

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#343460 - 04/10/12 08:13 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: Scott Langholff]
124 Offline
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Donny, check your yahoo email.

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#343461 - 04/10/12 09:00 PM Re: How to get best resluts prospecting, direct mail [Re: 124]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: 124
Donny, check your yahoo email.


Got it! ....Thanx so much and good luck to you clap

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