includes JBL covers

If that's not enough, I have three more that are expendable. One is still in box.
They really are great little speakers.
DonM

Fran and Don

I'm interested but please tell me why your dumping these? They're supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Also could you guys recommend a small mixer with effects to use with these? "Factory Direct" has a nice setup with mixer but it has no effects

Thanks in advance and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
(I refuse to use that "other" phrase-- HA!)

Bill, I have two Bose Compacts and only have the Podiums for backup. I've used two of them a few times. One is still in the box unopened.
They sound very good for what they are, but of course at one-tenth the price they won't be Bose!
Please consider buying Fran's first. Actually I think they are now DNJ's. His post just reminded me that I had some of them, and that I CAN recommend them.
DonM

What do either of you guys want for a pair?

Thanks

Jack

I am posting this for a friend....He is offering a pair of lightly used Podium 802 (8")speakers with JBL covers....free shipping...asking $225 for the pair..

Fran I am very interested I am in Northern California-by the way I grew up in Levittown Long Island--

How and to who would payment be made? I prefer Postal Money Order-Let me know

In Advance--

Thanks & Great Day!!

Jack

Fran-I will take them so Please consider them SOLD-So let me know the details as posted above--

Jack Hanoka
3123 Castle Rock Road
Discovery Bay Califormia 94505-1859

925-634-6714 Home Phone
jack-hanoka@sbcglobal.net Email

In advance Thanks Again!

Jack

Jack, I will pass your number to him...I know several folks have contacted him about them...If for any reason he has a deal already in place...DonM has a pair he can sell too..I will have the party call you...

Fran Thanks--

Don In case Frans Are Sold I would Want yours Please advise me your details and if that is acceptable to you

In Advance Don Thanks

Jack

Sold!!!!

Donny horse traded with Uncle Dave...DNJ says happy holidays to all on SZ....

PS: DonM has a pair available...

Don It looks Like DNJ got Frans so I definately want a pair of yours--my details are above please let me know yours--

Thanks

Jack

http://www.alesis.com/multimix8usb20

http://www.mackie.com/products/profx8/

and a very MERRY CHRISTMAS to you as well ...

Shipping my Podiums (Podia?) to Jack next week. I'm glad someone will be getting some use out of them.
I have orders from headquarters to clean out the garage, so I may have other items coming up for sale!
DonM

A friend, who is a member of Roland Arranger forum, tells me that several owners are selling their BK-7M.

Seems it is tad difficult to use, and lacks some important features, especially midi recording, which is found on even entry level arrangers.

Are you planning on selling yours, during the garage clean-up, Don?

Ian

I'm always looking to improve my situation. The BK7m has suited me very well, but like all arrangers, it has some drawbacks.
I found it to be an extremely useful device. Once you set up a controller, it has a lot going for it. I can do things with my controller that are impossible to achieve with just onboard controls.
I also use the 7-switch Roland pedal, assignable to just about anything you want it to do. After that there are still assignable pedal slots on both the module and controller.
The sound is at least as good, and probably better, than the E80, and the storage system is much improved.
I don't use midi recording, so that isn't a factor. It does have WAV recording, which is more useful for me, but to tell the truth I use an external Tascam mini stereo record to record everything. Then I can listen to my mistakes on the way home, then connect to the PC, save anything decent and dump the rest.

If I move on, it will be solely because I would like to return to something that is totally self-contained, with vocal harmonizer/processor, text display and a larger screen.
I also miss having multi-pads.
I prefer the joystick, which I do have with my module/controller setup.
The one that comes closest to meeting my requirements at this time is the Korg PA3X. I will not return to Yamaha unless they improve the drums and vocal harmony even more, so that will probably be never since they don't think anything is wrong with them. They did make a step or two in the right direction with T4, but it is too large and awkwardly shaped for my preferences. Also I don't like the fact that once you buy a Yamaha, you can not expect any upgrades from them until they offer a new model. Korg, Ketron and Roland have all been good about periodic improvements to current models--sometimes vast overhauls. Sure, maybe they should get it right in the first place, but at least they are aware and responsive to customer input.
To me, nothing sounds quite as good as Ketron, as far as drums, bass, background, etc. I may return to an Audya if the Korg doesn't suit me. My concern with Ketron is that IF it should break, there is no local option for repair. I haven't had any problems with mine, but going without my primary keyboard for weeks is not an option I want to have to deal with while I send it off the one person who could repair it.
My concern with Korg is whether I'll be able to come up with enough suitable styles. Style CREATION would be a viable option on it though.
I have a buyer waiting for my BK--in fact several people have expressed a desire to buy it, but I intend to continue playing Roland until I can get my hands on a PA3X and spend some time setting it up to see if it suits me. If I later find it doesn't, I would have absolutely no qualms about returning to the BK7m. And for $850, I could have another one the next day, or even two of them for less than the price of anything else with comparable capabilities. I considered keeping the BK for a backup or second setup, but I still have by trusty E50 for that.
Until then I am pleased and so are my clients and audience.
I have been active on the Roland forum. There are two that I remember on there who have "dumped" their BKs, Miden and Hammer. They both had reasons unrelated to sound or quality. Regardless of what arranger we're speaking of, there will be people who love it and others who find it isn't as suitable for them as another arranger might be. During recent months the number of BK users on the Roland board, and also on the Yahoo BK group, has grown by a very large number. Most of the players on Yahoo use them with accordions, but there are some who use keyboard and guitar controllers with it as well.
The fact is, we have many wonderful choices with Yamaha, Korg, Ketron and yes even the BK. It is amazing the sound and capabilities offered by ALL the current, and even not-so-current models. It is merely a matter of deciding which, relatively small, factors that make one board more suited to an individual performer's needs and desires. For somewhere between one thousand and four thousand dollars, we get hundreds of great sounds, hundreds of amazing styles, wonderful effects, vocal processing, lyrics handling, songbook/music finder software, midi, MP3, Wav recording and/or playback--the list goes on and on. Arrangers are amazing bargains if you consider all this.
Also, it's the end of the year and I really need a tax write-off!
DonM

Don,

How much is a 76 Pa3x in the USA, I keep looking at it, it looks like a lot of thought has gone into it. Not played it to see how much better it is than the Pa2x, I did have one and sold it about 12 months back.

Tony

Don,

You were one of the very few who got along with the BK-7M...even die-hard Roland fans like Fran, Diki, etc. are/were very disappointed in the instrument.

Here in Cape Breton, they sold only two, and both were returned.

I do hope you have better luck with the PA3X...they sold only one here(against many, many Tyros4's)...biggest complaint was lack of support and very few third party (and factory) styles available.

I do think the PA3X is a very professional arranger, and I think the ergonomics are superb and probably the best of the current crop, so maybe those pluses will make up for the minuses.

In any case, good luck with whatever you choose.

Ian

They list for $3,999. Expect to get a few hundred off that.
DonM

There are many happy BK users. They, along with many others, no longer post here.
DonM

They don't post on Roland arranger forum either...must be the ecstasy from BK-7M use...ha ha!

Why anyone would no longer post here on SZ is rather puzzling...this place is the very model of politeness...especially lately.

Ian

Thats pretty cheap Don, sells in the UK for about $4500, I would be looking to buy one at the price in the USA must be cheap because of the Low Voltage. LOL

Tony

The main reason I passed over the BK-7m.....It does not read lyrics embedded in SMF's (or chords)...on the internal screen...If it had...like the version 2 Prelude.....it would have been a great arranger with portability...Since I already own the "Cadilac" (G70)...with all the great features a top Roland gives me...with the exception of a mp3'wave playback option...the BK is not a must have for me...

I ..like Don, like the advantage the G70 allows me...with all in one design..and a very capable all in one arranger....at 46 pounds it answers the bell for me..even against the new stuff...

The "smart" vocalizer, markers, total editing for styles and songs., easy on stage OS..best piano, drawbar organ, drums built into an arranger...makes it "stil the one"...for me...
Everytime I A-B it to something new..it amazes me ..that I already have the better instrument.....FOR ME..

Forgot to mention, I also use a Tascam recorder that sits on the G70 and serves as my MP3 or wave playback...I also have a 250g Archos 7" tablet that sits easily on the G70 that serves as a playback device..

The best option of this type remains my Toshiba 13" laptop..it also can sit on the left side of the G70...

What is strange, is that the BK-7M's shortcomings were posted here on SZ, long before they appeared on other forums, and although many seemed to disagree with the posts (some even leaving a a huff), the shortcomings proved to be true.

The G-70 is a terrific arranger, Fran, in spite of it's aging platform (it still has a great piano sound, and a fine feeling keybed), but manufacturers have moved on with DNC and SA/SA2 voices (and lighter weight instruments) that appeal to the discriminating arranger player, rather than have them employed as a glorified SMF player (with a nice piano sound etc), and quite frankly, the G-70 was literally Roland's greatest and final kick at the arranger tin.

I rank it just below the Tyros2 (and quite far below the Tyros4) and almost on par with the PA3X, but, if it works for you, then you are a lucky man, and have found your Holy Grail (for now).

The BK-7M was not one of Roland's finest efforts by a long shot, and appears to be indicative of their complete lack of interest in making arrangers as good as they used to do in the past.

Ian

BTW..."Cadillac" is not really much of "the standard of quality" anymore...now Lexus is the one against which all others are compared.

BTW..."Cadillac" is not really much of "the standard of quality" anymore...now Lexus is the one against which all others are compared.

The Lexus is the Cambry's brother...even the parts are interchangeable


and yes..I knew I spelled Caddy with one L

I prefer to drive American made cars...a former "motor head"...and muscle car guy..I remember how hard it was to build an 11 second racecar....now a family import can run low 13's....of course I could bring the front wheels off the ground with my big block Chevelle SS...try that with any front wheel drive..

Hi Don,
I liked the BK-7M. The ONLY reason I sold it was because it did not allow users to change the OTS voices and save them. Had it allowed those changes I would have kept it. When I called Roland support they did not have any indication that any software updates were in the near future so off it went.

I am not sure I am going to be a buyer for any more $4000.00 keyboards. Right now I am very happy with my Tyros 4 and will probably keep it well beyond it's useful life. Until other manufactures develop a multitude of additional styles I will stay with Yamaha. For me that is the most important feature - availability of "free" styles.

I have tried Korgs in the past, both the PA1X and the PA2X Pro and did like the styles. Had Korg developed the support for styles that Yamaha enjoys I would have kept both of the Korgs. I believe all the TOTL arrangers are pretty good - but whichever arranger you buy it has to fit into your gigging requirements and for the working pro that is the "ONLY" thing that matters.

Deane

Whatever floats your boat, Fran...by the way, the big Lexus 400-series is not the Camry's brother...you're thinking of the smaller front-drive Lexus.

I too was a "motor head", but during the "malaise" years (mainly the 70's), the American motor industry was "out-motored" by the Japanese, mainly by quality and, of course, economy. I had my share of Camaros, Mustangs, and even had a Hemi 'Cuda...lots of fun as long as it was in a straight line.

Today, having a 400 hp vehicle is mainly bragging rights, as there really is no place to drive these vehicles at or near their full potential except a race track...public roads are either too well watched, or full of potholes.

My last American car was a vintage, original condition, 1949 Cadillac, back when they really were the "standard of the world" and it was a real hoot to drive, but for sheer practicality and, still a lot of fun, I really enjoy driving my front-wheel drive (great in winter) 2002 Honda Accord Special edition...great handling (front and rear sway bars), lots of power (VTEC engine) and it even holds all my gear.

I sold the Caddy a few years ago...sometimes I miss it...but, not enough to get another.

Ian

PS...I suppose we've drifted far enough off topic...hee hee!

Latest info says there will be a big upgrade in January, correcting a couple of omissions and adding some things that users have requested. We'll see!
DonM

If the promised upgrades allow users to change and save the OTS voices I might reconsider and get another one. We'll see.

Deane

Not sure if they will. Roland's explanation was that the Performances were exactly the same as OTS and there is immediate access via USB to as many as you want. I still think it would be nice though.
DonM