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#334736 - 12/24/11 10:37 AM
Re: Podium 802's with covers for sale
[Re: ianmcnll]
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Don,
You were one of the very few who got along with the BK-7M...even die-hard Roland fans like Fran, Diki, etc. are/were very disappointed in the instrument.
Here in Cape Breton, they sold only two, and both were returned.
I do hope you have better luck with the PA3X...they sold only one here(against many, many Tyros4's)...biggest complaint was lack of support and very few third party (and factory) styles available.
I do think the PA3X is a very professional arranger, and I think the ergonomics are superb and probably the best of the current crop, so maybe those pluses will make up for the minuses.
In any case, good luck with whatever you choose.
Ian The main reason I passed over the BK-7m.....It does not read lyrics embedded in SMF's (or chords)...on the internal screen...If it had...like the version 2 Prelude.....it would have been a great arranger with portability...Since I already own the "Cadilac" (G70)...with all the great features a top Roland gives me...with the exception of a mp3'wave playback option...the BK is not a must have for me... I ..like Don, like the advantage the G70 allows me...with all in one design..and a very capable all in one arranger....at 46 pounds it answers the bell for me..even against the new stuff... The "smart" vocalizer, markers, total editing for styles and songs., easy on stage OS..best piano, drawbar organ, drums built into an arranger...makes it "stil the one"...for me... Everytime I A-B it to something new..it amazes me ..that I already have the better instrument.....FOR ME..
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#334739 - 12/24/11 10:59 AM
Re: Podium 802's with covers for sale
[Re: Fran Carango]
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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The main reason I passed over the BK-7m.....It does not read lyrics embedded in SMF's (or chords)...on the internal screen...If it had...like the version 2 Prelude.....it would have been a great arranger with portability...Since I already own the "Cadilac" (G70)...with all the great features a top Roland gives me...with the exception of a mp3'wave playback option...the BK is not a must have for me... I ..like Don, like the advantage the G70 allows me...with all in one design..and a very capable all in one arranger....at 46 pounds it answers the bell for me..even against the new stuff... The "smart" vocalizer, markers, total editing for styles and songs., easy on stage OS..best piano, drawbar organ, drums built into an arranger...makes it "stil the one"...for me... Everytime I A-B it to something new..it amazes me ..that I already have the better instrument.....FOR ME.. What is strange, is that the BK-7M's shortcomings were posted here on SZ, long before they appeared on other forums, and although many seemed to disagree with the posts (some even leaving a a huff), the shortcomings proved to be true. The G-70 is a terrific arranger, Fran, in spite of it's aging platform (it still has a great piano sound, and a fine feeling keybed), but manufacturers have moved on with DNC and SA/SA2 voices (and lighter weight instruments) that appeal to the discriminating arranger player, rather than have them employed as a glorified SMF player (with a nice piano sound etc), and quite frankly, the G-70 was literally Roland's greatest and final kick at the arranger tin. I rank it just below the Tyros2 (and quite far below the Tyros4) and almost on par with the PA3X, but, if it works for you, then you are a lucky man, and have found your Holy Grail (for now). The BK-7M was not one of Roland's finest efforts by a long shot, and appears to be indicative of their complete lack of interest in making arrangers as good as they used to do in the past. Ian BTW..."Cadillac" is not really much of "the standard of quality" anymore...now Lexus is the one against which all others are compared.
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#334745 - 12/24/11 12:32 PM
Re: Podium 802's with covers for sale
[Re: Fran Carango]
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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BTW..."Cadillac" is not really much of "the standard of quality" anymore...now Lexus is the one against which all others are compared. The Lexus is the Cambry's brother...even the parts are interchangeable and yes..I knew I spelled Caddy with one L I prefer to drive American made cars...a former "motor head"...and muscle car guy..I remember how hard it was to build an 11 second racecar....now a family import can run low 13's....of course I could bring the front wheels off the ground with my big block Chevelle SS...try that with any front wheel drive.. Whatever floats your boat, Fran...by the way, the big Lexus 400-series is not the Camry's brother...you're thinking of the smaller front-drive Lexus. I too was a "motor head", but during the "malaise" years (mainly the 70's), the American motor industry was "out-motored" by the Japanese, mainly by quality and, of course, economy. I had my share of Camaros, Mustangs, and even had a Hemi 'Cuda...lots of fun as long as it was in a straight line. Today, having a 400 hp vehicle is mainly bragging rights, as there really is no place to drive these vehicles at or near their full potential except a race track...public roads are either too well watched, or full of potholes. My last American car was a vintage, original condition, 1949 Cadillac, back when they really were the "standard of the world" and it was a real hoot to drive, but for sheer practicality and, still a lot of fun, I really enjoy driving my front-wheel drive (great in winter) 2002 Honda Accord Special edition...great handling (front and rear sway bars), lots of power (VTEC engine) and it even holds all my gear. I sold the Caddy a few years ago...sometimes I miss it...but, not enough to get another. Ian PS...I suppose we've drifted far enough off topic...hee hee!
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