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#335240 - 01/03/12 05:56 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
ianmcnll Offline
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Gary, I do sing on my clinics/demos...and, I use the harmonizer...I use a vintage Electrovoice RE-15 on the Tyros4, and on the PSR-S910 (and previously on S900/3000/2000/9000/8000) a very cheap Yamaha mic that came with a vocal pack that was available back when the PSR-8000 was introduced.

I have had no issues with either mic...no feedback, or warbling sounds etc...just good clean vocal sound with and without harmony.

Of course, having the right settings is very important.

Ian
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#335247 - 01/03/12 06:55 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
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Glad to hear you're not having any problems with the rig, Ian.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#335249 - 01/03/12 07:17 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
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Gary, I'm sure that not everyone has had great luck with the harmonizer/microphone system in the Yamaha arrangers, but Dan Rymut has a super tutorial on PSR Tutorial that really clears up a lot of the common problems that were experienced by users.

Ian
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#335278 - 01/04/12 10:01 AM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: mirza]
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Originally Posted By: mirza

Why would you plug into Tyros or Micro arranger.There is no reason for that.Just go directly into the mixer.

Originally Posted By: travlin'easy

I haven't used a mixer in more than 10 years. Every external vocal processor I've owned has phantom power, therefore you can merely plug the output into the keyboard's Line-In and you're ready to go. Additionally, you can still utilize some of the great vocal effects in the keyboard, reverb, delay, etc..., all in conjunction with the outboard vocal harmonizer.


Gar, I'm afraid you'll need to bring out the mixer, not the Kickapoo Joy Mix laugh eek2 laugh
if you want to both sing & play on a Korg PA50SD/MicroArranger.
I'm just discovering, after reading the Korg MicroArranger (and PA50SD) manuals
more closely, that the signal entering the PA50SD/MicroArranger's 'line input' jack merely routes
the Line in signal directly to the keyboard's built in speakers as well as to the keyboard's L/R outputs.
The line-in signal's volume can't be altered in the Pa50SD/MicrArranger, nor any effects be added to it.
Considering this, here's a workaround solution (without having to add a dedicated mixer) suggested to me by Frankieve cool
which should theoretically work (though not actually tried),
if one utilizes a TC Helicon VoiceLive Touch with the MicroArranger:

Instead of bringing the mic signal into the MicroArranger,
send the MicroArranger's outputs to the AuX-In input of the VoiceLive Touch instead;
and then send the final mix (MicroArranger + Mic with TC Helicon efx) out to a PA or to headhpones via the VoiceLive Touch unit's outputs.
The limitation to this method though is that, though the keyboard's output volume can be easily adjusted from the MicroArranger,
the mic volume would pretty much have to remain fixed.

That said, the simplest approach I can see to add a mic + effects with the Pa50SD/MicroArranger is the way Mirza suggested smile ,
simply using an external mixer. Can anyone here recommend a compact small footprint 4 channel mixer of which includes: effects, and perhaps, phantom power too?

Scott cool


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#335280 - 01/04/12 10:11 AM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: ianmcnll]
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
So one wouldn't need a mixer at all...just plug the mic into the Voice Live Touch and then the latter into the line in on the keyboard (Tyros4 or microArranger). In the case of the microArranger, the on-board speakers could/would be used (at smaller more intimate gig settings, of course).

Ian
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#335284 - 01/04/12 11:17 AM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: ianmcnll]
Scottyee Offline
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
So one wouldn't need a mixer at all...just plug the mic into the Voice Live Touch and then the latter into the line in on the keyboard (Tyros4 or microArranger). In the case of the microArranger, the on-board speakers could/would be used (at smaller more intimate gig settings, of course).

Hi Ian, after more thought, I agree that bringing in the mic signal (post Voice Live Touch) into the keyboard via the MicroArranger's line-in jack should probably work, including the ability to adjust the mic volume, not from the MicroArranger, but on the VLTouch, but only by going out of the VLTouch via it's 1/8" stereo headphone output jack & using its accompanying output vol control knob, because the VLTouch's XLR & TRS outputs don't include output vol signal control. The MicroArranger's input jack is merely MONO, so I assume that a 1/8" stereo to 1/4" mono converter cable will be required as well for this setup. The only 'very minor' drawback to this method is that any 'stereo' vocal effects applied by the VLTouch will be heard mono thru the MicroArranger's built in Speakers and the keyboard's output - Scott

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#335288 - 01/04/12 11:33 AM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
ianmcnll Offline
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You'll know more once you get the microArranger Scott...you could also try the rack mount VH you have already, and get a good idea what will work best.

Ian
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#335289 - 01/04/12 11:55 AM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Not sure about the Micro, but on the PA3X there are separate e.q. settings available for the headphone output and the main outs.
I couldn't figure out why my recordings (via headphone out) didn't sound like my live sound until I found that.
DonM
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#335290 - 01/04/12 11:57 AM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
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Scott,

Why don't you just order a rack mounted Groove XR and go the whole hog! eeeeeeeeh, sod messing with the toys, blow your mind, not certain where you will get it from just yet. Plug it straight into the T4. BOOM! ZAP! BIFF! ZONK! beat that JR!

Mans stuff Scott.

Regards

Tony
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#335307 - 01/04/12 02:40 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
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