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#335206 - 01/03/12 09:55 AM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: travlin'easy]
tony mads usa Offline
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Scott,

I've been using the Harmony-M since it first came on the market, and while it really does a fantastic job, I, for one, don't believe the audiences even notice that you are singing in harmony. I get lot of comments about my vocals, but NO ONE has ever said "Wow--that harmony really sounded great." It just doesn't happen. In many instances I've pointed out to the audience that the harmony is actually me singing and it's live. I've even done songs accapella using the harmony-M, and while the audiences loved it, overall, it really doesn't seem to have much of an impact on the overall performance. I sang Have You Heard by the Duprees on NYE, most folks loved the song, but no comments about the harmoney, which I thought sounded terrific.

Good luck on whatever you decide upon,

Gary cool


Gary ... you are right in that most people will not comment on 'the harmony' during your performance, but, as you know, it is the overall performance - the sounds/styles/playing of the kb, the quality of the vocals, the choice of songs, etc. that people get impressed with ... just as I have often said, I doubt that many - if ANY - actually recognize when a performer changes a kb, and I don't think many are going to comment on the harmony - UNLESS of course, it is really BAD ... smile ...
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#335208 - 01/03/12 10:12 AM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Tony Hughes]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Scott,

£400.00 in the UK, are they made in the USA.


Tony
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#335214 - 01/03/12 12:07 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
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Scott, will you need a mixer/amp/powered speaker to use the harmonizer with the microArranger, or does the latter have a mic/line in?

Ian
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#335218 - 01/03/12 01:28 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: ianmcnll]
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Originally Posted By: ianmcnll
Scott, will you need a mixer/amp/powered speaker to use the harmonizer with the microArranger, or does the latter have a mic/line in?
Hi Ian.
Both the Korg MicroArranger and Tyros 4 include line level input, so the vocal mic simply plugs into the VoiceLive Touch unit, of which incidently has 'phantom' power, which I need when using my AKG C3000 condenser mic. The vocal signal + efx processing + harmonies (generatied from the chords played on the kb sent to the VoiceLive via midi from the KB) are in turn sent out the VoiceLive's line-level output and enter the Yamaha T4 or Korg MicroArranger thru their respective 1/4" line level input jacks, with the final keyboard/vocal mix sent out the the respective keyboard's stereo output to the PA. - Scott smile

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#335219 - 01/03/12 01:42 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
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Thanks Scott...that should make it handy for very small intimate gigs, where you won't need to bring an amp, but use the instrument's on-board speakers.

It's good to see the microArranger including line in jack...I'm guessing the PA-50 also had a line in jack, since the former is based on it.

So far so good...any more news on your Korg's arrival, or is it still expected this Thursday?

Ian
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#335224 - 01/03/12 02:41 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
mirza Offline
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Why would you plug into Tyros or Micro arranger.There is no reason for that.Just go directly into the mixer.
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#335225 - 01/03/12 02:53 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
ianmcnll Offline
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So one wouldn't need a mixer at all...just plug the mic into the Voice Live Touch and then the latter into the line in on the keyboard (Tyros4 or microArranger). In the case of the microArranger, the on-board speakers could/would be used (at smaller more intimate gig settings, of course).

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#335226 - 01/03/12 03:02 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: ianmcnll]
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Ian,

I haven't used a mixer in more than 10 years. Every external vocal processor I've owned has phantom power, therefore you can merely plug the output into the keyboard's Line-In and you're ready to go. Additionally, you can still utilize some of the great vocal effects in the keyboard, reverb, delay, etc..., all in conjunction with the outboard vocal harmonizer.

As for using the onboard speakers, I wouldn't recommend it. Too many problems with feedback and looping because of the close proximity to the mic. Dead-plug the speakers and use a good PA system and those problems are non-existent.

Cheers,

Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (01/03/12 03:04 PM)
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#335227 - 01/03/12 03:18 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
ianmcnll Offline
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No Mixer in 10 years Gary? Well, that's because your Kickapoo Joy Juice is active enough to mix itself...been known to dissolve plastic, I hear. wink

I've used the arranger's on-board speakers with a mic for many, many demos (and gigs), without a hint of feedback.

I can't see how it would be different with Scott's Korg (which is the main unit under consideration here), unless he's using an omni-directional mic....they don't work well for that application.

I do know Yamaha recommends a uni-directional mic for optimum results.

From what Scott has told me on Skype, his original intent was to eliminate an external mixer/amp entirely and use the Korg's on-board speakers, or headphones.

Ian
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#335232 - 01/03/12 04:39 PM Re: I'm interested in the getting a Voiceworks Touch [Re: Scottyee]
travlin'easy Offline
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Ian,

Onboard speakers usually have a detrimental effect when you are using vocal harmonizers--even with a quality, unidirectional mic. A good example of this was clearly demonstrated on the PSR-Tutorial site. Of course, if you don't sing, especially in harmony, then it's not a problem.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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