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#335937 - 01/12/12 12:53 PM
Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Having read all the threads and watched all the videos, I ordered one also. This is with no expectations of being my main board, but will certainly compliment my Audya and Kn7000. It will be handy to bring to church. As the music director there, I will find use for it. I am sure I can use it for some NH gigs, also.
Besides that, I need a new toy.
Bernie
Edited by Bernie9 (01/12/12 12:55 PM)
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#335975 - 01/12/12 03:35 PM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: Bernie9]
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Tony With two of the big dogs back with us(Scott and Donnie), I just had to follow along.
If you believe that -------
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#336030 - 01/13/12 04:52 AM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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How would the following scenario work: MicroArranger midi'd to laptop with vArranger. TX ch 1 accross the board. Midi into SD2 module.
So far,there shouldn't be a problem as I can control vArranger with my touch screen, and KB just sending note messages. The question is how fast I can switch midi off and play MicroArranger by itself ?
Not knowing Korg well enough, I am wondering if there are too many hoops to jump in live play.
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#336032 - 01/13/12 05:28 AM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 05/05/00
Posts: 1384
Loc: koudekerke, Holland.
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How would the following scenario work: MicroArranger midi'd to laptop with vArranger. TX ch 1 accross the board. Midi into SD2 module.
So far,there shouldn't be a problem as I can control vArranger with my touch screen, and KB just sending note messages. The question is how fast I can switch midi off and play MicroArranger by itself ?
Not knowing Korg well enough, I am wondering if there are too many hoops to jump in live play. Hi Bernie, Why would you want to complicate matters when you are not all that familiar with Korg for starters ? I would simply start by playing the thing itself, but in addition hook it up to your major keyboard, both sound and MIDI wise. In such a way you have all the advantages and it is a much more relaxed manner of getting to know the Micro. See below what I posted in another thread of mine. Simply hook up the micro both via MIDI and via AUDIO to your Tyros and you do not even have to bother about the small keys and you have improved amplification into the bargain. Let's assume your major keyboard is a Yamaha (tyros): You can start by simply linking up uppers and lower via Midi and also the auto accompaniment. (played on the keys of the tyros but stop/start simply on the Korg itself). Later on you might want to mute the upper midi channels on the Tyros, giving you the following ideal set-up. You do not link up the uppers but you do link up the auto accompaniment to your lower half of the Tyros. This will give you a choice by playing the Tyros left hand: 1/ auto accompaniment of the Tyros 2/ auto accompaniment of the Korg While at the same your right hand know has the choice of FIVE upper sounds, three of which on the righthand side of the Tyros and two on the righthand side of the Korg..... Okay this is about a Tyros, but it goes for virtually any other brand. And I guess that the Micro will be most sought after by current Yamaha, Roland and Ketron players. Anyone playing a major Korg keyboard at present can hardly be interested in the Micro, which however is incredible value for money. John
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#336034 - 01/13/12 06:19 AM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: bruno123]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Thanks all
John I had a PA800 for awhile and traded it for Roland G70. I liked the Korg sounds and styles, and was just beginning to learn the OS. The only reason I traded it was because of the reputation the G70 has, and maybe because it is more impressive looking with 76 keys and super keybed.
I have sold the G70 and my Kurzweil and feel like an empy nester. I am sure there will be help available here from my friends.
Bernie
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#336035 - 01/13/12 06:36 AM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: Bernie9]
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Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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John Smies
I answered John C before I saw your post.
I certainly value your opinion and thnk you for the help. That is good advice, and taken. You are right in that I easily overly complicate things. I will learn to walk, then run.
The only reason I wanted to couple with the vArranger is because it is on my laptop now, and wanted one kb to do double duty. A much more portable setup. Thanks, Bernie
Edited by Bernie9 (01/13/12 06:40 AM)
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#336044 - 01/13/12 08:42 AM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: john smies]
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
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How would the following scenario work: MicroArranger midi'd to laptop with vArranger. TX ch 1 accross the board. Midi into SD2 module.
So far,there shouldn't be a problem as I can control vArranger with my touch screen, and KB just sending note messages. The question is how fast I can switch midi off and play MicroArranger by itself ?
Not knowing Korg well enough, I am wondering if there are too many hoops to jump in live play. Hi Bernie, Why would you want to complicate matters when you are not all that familiar with Korg for starters ? I would simply start by playing the thing itself, but in addition hook it up to your major keyboard, both sound and MIDI wise. In such a way you have all the advantages and it is a much more relaxed manner of getting to know the Micro. See below what I posted in another thread of mine. Simply hook up the micro both via MIDI and via AUDIO to your Tyros and you do not even have to bother about the small keys and you have improved amplification into the bargain. Let's assume your major keyboard is a Yamaha (tyros): You can start by simply linking up uppers and lower via Midi and also the auto accompaniment. (played on the keys of the tyros but stop/start simply on the Korg itself). Later on you might want to mute the upper midi channels on the Tyros, giving you the following ideal set-up. You do not link up the uppers but you do link up the auto accompaniment to your lower half of the Tyros. This will give you a choice by playing the Tyros left hand: 1/ auto accompaniment of the Tyros 2/ auto accompaniment of the Korg While at the same your right hand know has the choice of FIVE upper sounds, three of which on the righthand side of the Tyros and two on the righthand side of the Korg..... Okay this is about a Tyros, but it goes for virtually any other brand. And I guess that the Micro will be most sought after by current Yamaha, Roland and Ketron players. Anyone playing a major Korg keyboard at present can hardly be interested in the Micro, which however is incredible value for money. John John welcome back to SZ it will be good to hear your inputs on KORG units..
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#336046 - 01/13/12 08:56 AM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: john smies]
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Registered: 11/10/00
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Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
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Okay this is about a Tyros, but it goes for virtually any other brand. And I guess that the Micro will be most sought after by current Yamaha, Roland and Ketron players. Anyone playing a major Korg keyboard at present can hardly be interested in the Micro, which however is incredible value for money.
John
Congrats to you Bernie and to those who also are getting or have already gotten a Microarranger. For those who have never played Korg arrangers, or maybe have had a PA80 or PA50 and enjoyed playing it, this should be a nice addition. Or for someone who wants something ultra small and portable that will sound like a pro quality arranger board, this is probably it. The price is great btw. Ironically though, for me personally, I pretty much came to the same conclusion as John. For a few minutes at least, I toyed with the idea of parting with my old PA80 and replacing it with a micro arranger. I have also had a PA800 and now have a PA3x. Then I thought a little more about it and I decided that I would be gaining nothing except having a cut down version of the PA80 ( actually PA 50 right ? ) in a smaller package. That in itself is kinda cool, but I have no particular need for it personally. I don't play the PA80 any more, but my grandkids have it along with my original PSR500, and they love them both. The PA80 still sounds and works just like it did the day I took it out o the box brand new. I came to the conclusion that for me wanting a Micro arranger probably has more to do with my nostalgia for the old Casio and Yamaha PSS dept store mini sized keyboards of the 80's. Most of them were true FM synths that can become quite useful with the addition of external circuitry to morph parameters not available on the boards themselves. I have to say though that I don't mind playing the mini sized keys at all. The appeal for me was that they HAD some older cheesy FM sounds but some of these boards also had some pretty cool analog sounding stuff in them as well. If anyone has any of those laying around and doesn't want or need them, I might be interested. The nostalgia runs deep for some others as well, enough so that a few VSTi's of the earliest Casio's have been created and released.
Edited by Bluezplayer (01/13/12 09:16 AM)
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#336073 - 01/13/12 11:44 AM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: ianmcnll]
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Registered: 05/05/00
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Loc: koudekerke, Holland.
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Thank you Donny, Don.
Well you said it as well Bluesplayer, not much point in having a Micro on top of a PA800 or PA3X. As a matter of fact I did the "topsey turvey " thing by purchasing a secondhand Yamaha PSR3000. ( the downgraded version of the Tyros 1 or so I am told). And I am quite pleased with it though I have never been a true Yamaha fan or player. But currently I own a brand new PA800 (last summer) plus the Yammie PSR3000 + Ketron SD2 module for a price below the (barren) PA3X. I have two decent internal speaker systems, two different vocalisers, two full fledged keyboards and the sound and style sytem of the both of them. So yes, I am quite content. If you purchase the Micro not owing any Korg you will have virtually the same set up as I have bar the mini keys on the one keyboard. Still, and I am not getting paid by anyone for saying this, I would heartily recommend any Yamaha,Roland keyboard player to pick one up, certainly at the current retailing prices in the US of A.
John
P.S. my choice for the Pa800 was quite intentional as I already had the choice between the PA800 and PA3X. But for my home playing purposes and in view of all the things just mentioned I prefered the choices that I made. One thing's for sure however with Korg, either Micro or PA3X, if you do not take to kindly to (rather in-depth) programming and tweaking, better go elsewhere...........................
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#336080 - 01/13/12 12:56 PM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: john smies]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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It couldn't be any worse than Kurzweil. This is not a negative for either. Both are deep operating systems whose secrets are not readily revealed.
Edited by Bernie9 (01/13/12 12:58 PM)
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#336090 - 01/13/12 02:35 PM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: rikkisbears]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Rikki That is swell of you to help. Deane posted on the vArranger forum for some clarification of the same idea. He wants an excuse to buy one also.
BTW, Klaus sent my update link right away, thank you.
Bernie
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#336140 - 01/14/12 03:03 AM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: rikkisbears]
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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Rikki
Thanks so much
I have printed out your great instructions for the arrival of my Micro.
It is who you know that counts.
Bernie
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#336156 - 01/14/12 08:09 AM
Re: Just Bought A Korg MicroArranger
[Re: Mockie]
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Hi Gang
I must say I'm amazed at the amount of people on
this forum buying this micro arranger. .
First of all let me say, from what I've heard, it sounds very
professional and it has a lot of great sounds and styles.
But these small keys where all the "action" takes place, is this not making life more difficult. Maybe I'm getting it
wrong, are these people using it only as an expander for their main setup.
Let me say though, I'm very interested in getting it's bigger
brother Korg Pa50 SD as a possible piggy back for my G70, to be
played as an independant arranger, think of the variety of
styles and sounds one would have at a gig, if I can get a
stand strong and safe enough to hold them. Here is my option..great full size keys....when the mini keys get to me...I am hoping one hour gigs I can use the mini keys, but if not..another 17 pound controller is an option.. After talking with Uncle Dave, I pulled my A-33 from EBAY...I had several people wanting to buy it...sorry folks.. Call Frank in the east...or George in the west..they have Korg Micro arranger..
Edited by Fran Carango (01/14/12 08:13 AM)
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