The Korg micro-Arranger along with Pa80/60/50 model keyboards, don't store styles individually, but instead, store them 'grouped together' with other styles in one of 3 sets of USER Banks: USER01, USER02, USER03. Each USER bank can contain 16 styles, with all 3 banks: 48 user styles total . As a result, esp if you've got a lot of user styles/user banks, organizing & compiling your entire style library can quickly becomes challenging to organize and manage, esp if you need to access more than 48 styles at a sitting.

Enter 'Pa REsource Manger" (free)
It claims to be a powerful program for Korg Pa80, Pa60, and Pa50 keyboards, and I only assume now for the new Korg micro-Arranger too, to manage (organize) all your styles, rename them, group them in banks and create USER BANKS and loaded into the keyboard.

I just finished installing the program (PaResource Mgr. version 2.41), but have to admit I'm confused about a few things with its operation. Some of the online FAQ documentation for it is unreadable(print garbled up). Does anyone here have experience using this software app for organizing and creating USER BANK Sets for the Korg microARRANGER or Pa80/60/50 keyboards? Feedback much appreciated.

Scott

Scott,
The micro arranger does store styles individually. all you do is go to the set that has styles, push open, select the style folder, push open, select user1,2 or 3, push open, select the style you wish to load, push load, it will now give you the choice to load it to any of the 48 locations, push load and you have loaded 1 style. You can do this for all 48 locations and then save as a new set and there you go!

Hi Scott

In my other post I said I had just been trying the PRM program and it does work quite well once you sus it out. It took me quite a while to work out how to save a style bank.

When you have loaded the database with styles which is explained in the notes you can then transfer any style across into a new bank. Then comes the tricky bit. When you save the new bank and give it a name etc it is then saved into a hidden database. (It doesn't mention this in the notes) Go to the bank menu and "load" a new bank this will display a list of banks previously saved. The one you have been working on should be present with your name and description. Highlight your new bank and select load bank. The new bank will re-appear on the right hand side of the main screen. Select make sty file from the bank menu.

New window appears allowing you to select where and how you wish to save the new bank, I have been using make user01.sty make your choice and press make sty. The new bank will be saved to your chosen location.

PS: before you do all this in the first screen select parameters and in the path for floppy type in your sd card mine is d:/

PRM will know where to save the new bank.

There is another handy programm called KSS or korg sniffer this allows you to open any PA50/60/80 style bank ie USER01.sty

and see what styles are in there.

Regards and good luck

Col

PS any problems let me know.

George,
Unless I'm missing something here, that's simply not true.
The micro arranger does 'not' store styles individually.
Styles must be stored 'together in a group' with up to 16 other styles in a User Bank .sty File (USER01,USER02, or USER03).
Once stored in a USER Bank file, it of course can be easily called up as you described.

This is very reassuring.
Thanks for all the terrific useful PRM tips , especially the part about the hidden data base file not mentioned in the PRM documentation.
Thanks also for filling me about the SD card being 'drive D' as well. I was wondering about that.

One of the most frustrating things for me with the micro-Arranger and PA80/60/50 OS is not being able to view the contents (style names) of their USER01, USER02, or USER03 files from my PC.
For this reason, I will definitely download KSS (Korg sniffer). It will be great to finally (on the PC) actually see the individual styles contained in a given USER01, USER02, or USER03 file.

Col, I hope you can get Skype up and running soon, as I 'm really looking forward to chatting with you there to exchange information & our experiences about our micro-Arranger.
I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Scott

Scott I easily singly audition Korg styles with EMC styleworks universal program on my PC no problem. btw tried you on skype No Answer..

Scott, I thought you meant loading a single style, not storing to card a single style.

Here's what I originally posted:

Thanks Donny

I never thought of that as I use Universal XT for conversion only.

Bernie

Very easy to do Bernie just make sure you have the correct conversion setup first.. the styles that sound good thru EMC usually sound better in your Arranger...good luck.

"....The Korg micro-Arranger along with Pa80/60/50 model keyboards, don't store styles individually, but instead, store them 'grouped together' with other styles in one of 3 sets of USER Banks: USER01, USER02, USER03. Each USER bank can contain 16 styles, with all 3 banks: 48 user styles total . As a result, esp if you've got a lot of user styles/user banks, organizing & compiling your entire style library can quickly becomes challenging to organize and manage, esp if you need to access more than 48 styles at a sitting.....

Scott,
I fail to see why you would organize things this way. With the Korg ( any Korg) you can also vacate any factory style position. There definitely will be many styles or even complete banks within the factory styles that you do not use. So you can effectively extend your User Style Banks to a number much larger than three by (temporarily ) converting fixed factory banks to user banks. In this way you can gear up a set up for the kind of gig you are performing at by simply loading all relevant data in one go. ....................

regards,
John

hi John. Good point. I plan to eventually do just that.
Right now though, having only had the KMA for 2-3 weeks,
I've still not had sufficient time to thoroughly explore the factory styles yet.
I'm also still at the stage of auditioning & trying out my collection (100's?) of external styles (both Korg & converted 3rd party ones)
to determine which ones most useful to me personally.
These are all now stored in my SD Card in USER Bank file sets.
Once I figure out which ones are most essential to me, I'll then copy & overwrite those into the available factory style slots.

Question: I realize KMA 'factory styles' can be restored at any time from the backup files on the KMA backup CD.
Is it possible to simply restore a 'single' factory style, or must an 'entire' style bank be restored ?

Thanks.

Scott

Scott keep us posted on your progress.....& also when you get the iRIG microphone VH processor

iRIG

I want to know how it works out for you versus the Nanoverb unit/KMA combination your now using on your GIGS....must be nice not to have to carry around the T4....take care btw nice to talk to you on SKYPE also..

Hi Scott

Nice to talk to you and Tony (God bless his little cotton socks) in person. In case you havn't read your IM the files your sent will not load into the Micro. I have checked them using the Style to midi program and they contain three fills. Its my guess they were created on a PA500/800/1x or 2x and are not backward compatable.

I also managed to load individual files from any SET into the micro (KMA) quite easily so if you wish to do this rest assured it can be done.

Regards

Col Saswick (Private Joke) Ha Ha (Private huh quick demotion)

hi Donny, yes, I'll definitely fill you in what I learn about the iRig after I get a chance (hopefully) to check it out at MacWorld San Francisco later this week.
The iRig definitely looks promising.

Colonel Saswick!


Yep, this is exactly what I had suspected as well.
Though I too was able to load the styles into the USER BANK and with the style name appearing, when I actually tried to play them, I received a FAIL error.
Colin, Thanks for confirming that.

Scott

Hi Scott,

Question: I realize KMA 'factory styles' can be restored at any time from the backup files on the KMA backup CD.
Is it possible to simply restore a 'single' factory style, or must an 'entire' style bank be restored ?

Answer:
Yes it is possible. How ?
If you save your current 17 factory style banks ( switch of "factory style protect ") and save each bank one after the other in a new ALL.set which you can give any name you like, you can afterwards recall this ALL.set, delve into it and reload either a bank ( to whichever bank postion that you like) or reload a SINGLE STYLE, to whichever position that you desire, be it in the factory banks or in the users.

Hope that clarifies your question ?

regards
john

This is just the answer I was hoping for. Thanks John.