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#338261 - 01/31/12 03:43 AM MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3!
DAN.2000 Offline
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I just installed the VST Hypersonic 2 on my computer who is GM compliant.

I loaded on the vArranger software, the Tyros 3 Bebop style, who sounds amazing to my ears

I added the chords with the SONG CHORDS feature

HERE is the MP3 recording of the result, direct out from the VST host, with NO tweaking at all.

http://www.varranger.com/demo/vArrangerTyros3Bebop.mp3

It's amazing that we can create a quality backing track in less than 5 minutes !!
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#338263 - 01/31/12 04:10 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
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And here is the MIDIFILE export of this song by vArranger

http://www.varranger.com/demo/vArrangerTyros3Bebop.mid

ps : The MIDIFILE export feature will be available in a free update this week for all vArranger users
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#338264 - 01/31/12 04:24 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
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Hi Dan

Sounds great. Can't wait for the latest build.

Bernie
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#338270 - 01/31/12 07:18 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
Dnj Offline
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Dan WOW what a transformation.....
it sounds amazing thru the Varranger.... how is the cross talk & setup between a really good controller & the VArranger as far as navigation in REAL TIME PLAY compared to using a stand alone arranger KB?....that is my only concern as the sound is quality for sure.


Edited by Dnj (01/31/12 07:18 AM)

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#338273 - 01/31/12 08:23 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: Dnj]
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Hi DNJ,

Every buttons and slider of vArranger can be controlled by a wireless PC KEYboard, or by a MIDI KEY, MIDI slider/knob, MIDI pedals... or even a PC wireless Joystick.

I still prefer to gig with a stand alone arranger KB, because my playing is changing sounds and variations 10 times a minute,
but when I gig with vArranger, I feel comfortable after some minutes of playing.

What I really prefer on vArranger, is that :

we can EDIT every thing on a big screen, and save a full registration in a click of a button.
You can create new layered sounds very easily.
In live situation, you then just recall everything by loading your style : The Right hand sound/ LH sound + style mixer + your 10 favorites sounds going well with the style + Displaying JPG score + some chords riff associated to that song that you can ON/OFF at any time.

The layout of the software is better than any hardware arranger
that I tried.

I am usually using a touch screen PC on gigs, so I can change styles directly with my finger on the screen.

The songs management is very easy

There is a nice SEARCH feature. Very cool when you need to find a song or a style in a second.

The SONG CHORDS feature is also amazing to create backing tracks very easily, or if you want to sometimes SOLO with Full Keyboard, while vArranger is changing the chords for you. Here a screenshot
http://www.varranger.fr/vforum/index.php?topic=218.0

The MIDIFILE + KARAOKE + MP3 player, is cool too.

vArranger is still NOT perfect, and will not replace Hardware arrangers, but you can GIG with it, enjoy playing music with it, and do some cool things that you can't do with hardware arrangers.
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#338276 - 01/31/12 09:01 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
Dnj Offline
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Dan all this looks very interesting and certainly a viable choice as variation to using a stand alone arranger. I am looking at all avenues and alternatives to what i am now using.
Of course i have concerns and different needs then other people and many questions about setting up a rig as shown in your website pictures also. When I get a chance I'll email you with some of my questions to get an idea of what is entailed in using the Varranger software for gigging.

Thank you

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#338278 - 01/31/12 09:24 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: Dnj]
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Here is a picture of how I used vArranger on my latest gig.

I just start to gig with my new PSR-A2000.

This Gig was not a one man band. I played with full band (bass, drums, trumpet, sax...), so no need of the arranger section.

Yamaha sounds are very cool, but some sections are really bad. Like BRASS... So I took a small 49 key keyboard + my Ketron SD4, to have the Ketron sounds on top of the Yamaha sounds.

I was surprised on how the mix Yamaha + Ketron sounds was good, and how I felt comfortable with 2 keyboards

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#338279 - 01/31/12 09:29 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
Dnj Offline
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Great looking rig Dan.......but why didn't you just use the Ketron + Varranger, controller sounds without the Yamaha at all.....? btw Dan are you on SKYPE?


Edited by Dnj (01/31/12 09:31 AM)

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#338281 - 01/31/12 09:34 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: Dnj]
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I did many gigs with vArranger + Ketron SD2 only, but on this gig, I had to use some oriental sounds that are not in the SD2
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#338282 - 01/31/12 09:38 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
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Hypersonic 2 certainly is a good soundsource, i have been using it for quite some time now, but it doesn't work this great for all Yamaha styles, some sound just perfect others need a lot of tweaking..


Nice detail, Hypersonic is made by Steinberg, which is owned by ...... Yamaha.


It would not surprise me is some of hypersonic samples where also used in Yamaha instruments.
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#338283 - 01/31/12 09:41 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
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Does Varranger has an onboard recorder or sequencer?

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#338284 - 01/31/12 09:44 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
Dnj Offline
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Ah I understand..... how many styles do you have access to using the Varranger?

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#338285 - 01/31/12 09:45 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
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Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
I did many gigs with vArranger + Ketron SD2 only, but on this gig, I had to use some oriental sounds that are not in the SD2


Dan what is witholding you from going all software for live use..

Is it just a matter of finding the right amount of confidence and adding the right hardware tools that allow you to fully controll the software?
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#338286 - 01/31/12 09:52 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: FransN]
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Originally Posted By: FransN
Does Varranger has an onboard recorder or sequencer?


Its software Frans... just reroute your output to some recording software and it will work just perfectly..

You can use any software for playing sequences ..


Ever since i found out (last week) that JACK audio connection manager works just perfectly under windows with ASIO for all 2, the possibilities are endless....

Use both Varranger and Ableton live and set it so it will route the audio output tracks through cubase and you can record all you want or just use Cubase as your mixer...
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#338287 - 01/31/12 09:54 AM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: Bachus]
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Yes I know that but one man band has a onboard recorder which is much easier to use. For an 350 Euro software I expect it has at least a sequencer

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#338298 - 01/31/12 12:20 PM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
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FransN, there is no sequencer yet into vArranger.
While I can understand that it's cool to have an all in one software, I prefer to first add the features that CAN'T be found in other software.

What I suggest you to do when you want to create a recording : you select a style, you enter chords on the grid with the mouse or by midi learn, and you press EXPORT TO MIDIFILE.

Then you open the midifile in any sequencer, like cubase... and continue working on your song. (adding AUDIO/MIDI/VST tracks)

But who knows, maybe I will add a sequencer later, or a simple RECORD button.

DNJ, you can load any Ketron styles from old solton MS series, to the SD5/Midjay plus. Not the Audya yet.
You can also load all the Yamaha styles, up to the Tyros 4.

Bachus, my principal keyboard was the Ketron SD1, and all I had to do is to copy the styles from the SD1 to the computer, to be used with vArranger + SD2. So I had exactly the same sound with
my SD1 and with the computer.

The next step for me, is to go 100% software, and I am now working on this. Before releasing anything, I have to be sure that it will be SIMPLE to use, and perfectly STABLE.

I also have some dreams about creating a hardware control surface.

Bachus, what is your musical setup?
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#338299 - 01/31/12 12:44 PM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
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Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
FransN, DNJ, you can load any Ketron styles from old solton MS series, to the SD5/Midjay plus. Not the Audya yet.
You can also load all the Yamaha styles, up to the Tyros 4.

The next step for me, is to go 100% software, and I am now working on this. Before releasing anything, I have to be sure that it will be SIMPLE to use, and perfectly STABLE.


Dan ...wow that would be fantastic 100% software with Ketron/Yamaha styles ....no extras modules...just a good controller kb...I hope that becomes a reality in the future ..good luck

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#338300 - 01/31/12 12:54 PM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: Dnj]
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Thank you smile
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#338302 - 01/31/12 01:28 PM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
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Originally Posted By: DAN.2000


Bachus, what is your musical setup?


Yamaha S90ES (with expansion boards VL DX AN)
V-Synth GT2
Intel PC, Dual CPU with 24 GB memmory - on 24"touchscreen

the rest is software
-Ableton live
-Live-Styler
-Cubase
->My most used VST's
+NI Complete + Kore controller
+Alchemy
+Hypersonic 2
+ReFx Nexus
+Omnisphere
+truepianos
+Many others mostly free VST's and effects.
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#338317 - 01/31/12 04:49 PM Re: MP3 DEMO : vArranger + HyperSonic2 + BEBOP Tyros3! [Re: DAN.2000]
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Brilliant Dan.

looking forward to the update.
Originally Posted By: DAN.2000
And here is the MIDIFILE export of this song by vArranger

http://www.varranger.com/demo/vArrangerTyros3Bebop.mid

ps : The MIDIFILE export feature will be available in a free update this week for all vArranger users
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