I can't say anything, Ron...I'm under an NDA agreement(Non Disclosure Agreement).

Keep checking the relevant forums.

Ian

I've said my piece, I always keep an open mind.
Enjoy your Tyros it's a fine instrument...but, in no way is it or will it ever be in the class of a TOTL a Workstation/Synth.

Ok, enough said I understand I was part of a group interviewed for the next Tyros type unit worked with Yamaha and had to sign one as well.

In keeping with the "open mind" theme, of course it isn't in the same class, Donny...that's why they make both.

Whether the Tyros4 (or any other TOTL arranger) is better, or not as good, as a workstation, will depend on your needs, and your point of view.

I simply prefer the arranger over the workstation, and obviously, most, if not all, professional players/entertainers on SZ do as well (including you).

Questions...why do you use an arranger?

Don't you use styles as well as SMF?

The arps on the workstations aren't nearly as flexible as styles for "live" play.

I'm not condemning your use of a workstation, if you choose to go that way, but, please explain why you would use one instead of an arranger?

Wasn't that one of the points of this topic?

Ian

I hope folks on this forum keep one thing in perspective; Karma on the Kronos is NOT very easy to program. If you think you are going to sit down and write a sequence in Karma within the first 7-30 days of owning a Kronos, you better think again. It is very complex and non-intuitive. You will be forced to research, read, practice, take tutorials, etc.

Using the built in drums, are another matter. You select the arp/drum track and go.

Karma is NOTHING as simple as an arranger or creating new styles, for that matter.

Thanks for the different perspective, Al.

Does the Kronos come with a number of preset KARMA patterns?

It sounds so darn good.

Ian

Another question: Does the KARMA engine recognize complex chords, and/or bass inversions?

Yes, NDA's suck, and, they still don't tell me anything.

Ian