Fran, I am curious if you still use either of these? The Edirol mixer, I can't recall exact model, M10DX? I have used it a lot but have never used the automatic room analysis routine. That intrigues me. Do you use that feature? Elaborate if you do, please.

The Roland BA330, mine quit and the repairman said the power supply was bad, said it still works with batteries. My reverb was also not working but he said it is now. Hmmm... can't imagine how since he didn't do anything to fix it. But, it works now. On batteries, anyway. Curious if you ever use the BA330 as well and have any comments. (Or anyone else?) Do you feel you have enough power for a gig? I haven't used mine much but I just tried mine again on batteries and I wonder if something is wrong with it, it is not very loud at all!

You and DonM cost me alot of money, Fran. Y'all quit buying stuff! Next up, I'll buy a KMA or heaven forbid, a PA3X if I'm not careful. Right now, pecking away on a Yamaha NP-30.

Bill I have and use both...The mixer is the best mixer I have owned, features and quality...and i have own a bunch, including Mackie , Toa, Boss, Peavey, Behringer , and Alesis..


My BA330 has worked flawlessly..and I have it on hand for every thing...In the studio for a quick mixer/ monitor, on stage , either as a primary sound or a stage monitor and it's mixer and effects...

The BA330 is the absolute "swiss knife) mixer/amp...


Bill why not just replace the power supply, maybe it is only the connection into the supply unit..

The Edirol mixer is worth it's price just for the room control feature...but the other goodies , insert effects, and master effects, are top shelf...

I was offered a large profit for my Edirol , and I refused, they are hard to find now...

The BA330 was never on my to sell list...I would buy it again if someone stole it...same with the Edirol...


The room control..I set it up for all my sound system/venues that I work...There are 12 memory locations...

I analyze the room and it maintains the quality, sound...

My favorite sound system has been my Roland Cube 100, for the last 27 years...This feature of the Edirol degrees the Roland amps to perfection...I will match this combo to anything you want to compare....I never , ever need a sub woofer and all three way sound sources work great ..nothing is missing like the Bose for example..

The Edirol mixer was the best update for my antiques...and the added gain makes the Cube 100's as punchy as anything on the market...besides I have 4 of these if I ever need it...


Let me follow up about the BA330,, I have since sold the Podium 802's (pair) and the Yorkville 300k, because the BA330 does their job and more ..The BA330 mixer /amp gives me the effects missing on the Yorkville, and mixing and effects missing on the 802's...I have the full range covered between the BA330 and Roland Cube 100's...I lack nothing..

So, Fran, you must have plenty of volume out of your BA330. Mine never has been very loud. I don't expect it to shatter windows but it just seems under-powered. I assume that whether I am using AC or DC, it should be same output. Correct me if wrong, you know I ask a lot of dumb questions.

Yes, the Edirol mixer is a good one, I need to experiment with the room analysis feature.

I think battery use with the BA330 loses some volume....BTW, if you want to push the BA330 more..use the Edirol mixer with it.. I have pushed it another 50 percent with a mixer ..and had good results..

I've used the mixer for several years now. It is small, lightweight and loaded with features. I prefer the "old" knobs and sliders rather than the layers of screens, but no big deal. However I haven't had any success the couple of times I tried the room analyzer, but then I don't feel my Bose Compacts need much, if any, e.q. to sound great. I probably didn't do the analyzer right, but it made the sound nasal and too bright in the upper mids.
I don't know what Fran does to his, but nothing is missing frequency-wise on mine. I'll bet I've "sold" a dozen sets for Bose from people hearing them and thinking they have to have 'em!
DonM

Ditto! I get at least one call a week about the L1 and L1 Compact, and with once exception, every person that has purchased them within the past year said they would never go back to a conventional sound system. And, that includes a couple DJs and KJs.

Gary

Come on guys....I had a friend go into detail what he found after using the Edirol room control on his Bose...If you never tried the procedure, how in the world would you know...what I am talking about.....Folks chose to ignore this report over a year ago...I never said my friend was not a Bose fanatic...he is...But he won't play thru a Bose without the Edirol...

When we say ..night and day...that it is...

Don, placement of the Edirol for scanning is critical...follow to the letter...the instructions...

I always felt that Bose purposely leaves out freq spaces to get the deired sound.."they" want...

I have also used the Edirol room control with my other sound systems too, all with great results...they include the Podium 802's and the Podium 1204's..

Oh, I did try it Fran. As I said, I must have done something wrong because it sounded horrible.
When I get time I will try again, JUST in case it could make the Bose system sound even more incredible.
Thanks,
DonM

Don, if you recall ..the Edirol has 3 formats..I would suggest the "flat" format..the others are "bumps" and "warm"

Relax Don ... Fran's hearing is shot. He can't tell how good the Bose sounds without any outside help!

I sent my BA330 back after one day of trying it out at home. No b***s at all. But then again what did I expect from 30 watts. Everything else about it I loved and was hoping for a miracle. Great for maybe an acoustic guitar and voice but thats it. I still wish they would drop the battery power thing and put in a nice lightweight stereo amp with about 200 watts a side. Then I would buy two to stereo link together.

Another question in this thread. Can anyone really DJ with Bose compacts? Whats in the bottom, 8" woofers? Just can't see them pushing that much sound.
Just did 200 people Sat. and used my Carvin LM12" on stands with my Yamaha mixer pushing 500 watts into them and my Crate KX220 keyboard amp on the floor as a sub. Pushed it all to the max but it worked great and I got two more gigs. I keep looking for new stuff like the BA330 or Podiums as the next best greatest thing but physics tells me you need power and air movement.

Bill in NJ

Mackie tops & bottoms, subs,mixers for me always.
Learned my lesson with everything else..

Bill,

There seems to be a growing number of DJs here using the Bose L1 Model-II, two KJs using the Bose L1 (old model), and two that I know of using the L1 Compact. One of the guys using the Compact uses a pair of them, while the other guy DJs at restaurants and bars and uses a single Compact. I suspect there are a lot more DJs and KJs using them than I know of in this part of the world, but because we tend to work different circuits we rarely come in contact with them.

On the compact, I believe the sub consists of an 8-inch long throw, but I could be wrong about the size. I know it has all the bottom end anyone could ever want for audiences to 150 people. The standard Model L1 uses a 10-inch long throw sub and it will blow the windows out of most venues. I've performed at Martin's West in their largest hall with the L1 standard and never turned the master volume much beyond the 10 O'clock position, and that was a mixed crowd job that dictated higher than normal volumes for me. I had 200 plus people in a Conga line snaked through the room while I played and sang Hot Hot Hot. The only problem I encountered was when the facility manager came in and asked me to turn it down a bit because he could clearly hear me in the lobby, which was some distance away. I complied with his wishes and no one complained the volume was too low.

Good Luck,

Gary

Gary, I think you have your numbers wrong - the Bose B1 bass speakers are 6 1/2", and there are 2 in the unit. I always thought the compact had 2 8" woofers, but I could be wrong. I dont feel like looking it up right now ... if it's important - someone else will do it!
d

You could be right, Dave. I remember the Z-5500 had a 10-inch long throw sub, but it was powered. The L1 may have had a pair of long-throw 6.5s, but I just can't remember and no longer have the system or the spec sheets. Now I rely on my compacts, which are more than adequate for just about anything I do these days. The compact definitely has a single 8-inch sub. Here's the spec sheets: Bose L1 Compact

Gary

If you want bottom bass you gotta push air...plain and simple.

Bottom Baby!!