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#341149 - 02/29/12 11:34 PM Small mixer
shim Offline
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Registered: 03/26/08
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I've got a question for you folks (esp. Donny)!

What small mixer do you recommend and what do YOU use?

Is a small under $100 mixer good enough for me on the tyros 4 and a mic?
For example the behringer-xenyx-802-mixer

Is there BETTER mixers besides for just having more channels? I don't plan on using any effects anyway..?

This can be a good thread for all tyros and yamaha users who perform.

I just want to have more control and the ability to use stereo. I have now two EV LiveX 12in Speakers, and have not used a mixer until now.

Can someone help me out?

Thanks,
Shim


Edited by shim (02/29/12 11:36 PM)

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#341151 - 03/01/12 12:07 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Yes Shim,

a 802 is a cracking little mixer, I have one for the Audya and the Tyros 4, plug the Tascam recorder into it also.

not expensive

Tony
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#341153 - 03/01/12 12:14 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: Tony Hughes]
shim Offline
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Tony, thanks.
I'd like to hear others chime in.

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#341167 - 03/01/12 04:05 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
Scottyee Offline
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Shim,
If you don't need onboard efx, the 802 is a great choice. That said,
I recently purchased and recommend the Behringer Xenyx 1002FX
especialy if you want effects included as well. It's got 10 inputs, including 2 XLR mic inouts,
phantom power, and 100 digital efx.
As Donny Pesce recommends as well (he owns this unit too) smile ,
I like efx setting #91 rev/short slap back delay, ch 1 mic FX at 1 o'clock and master at 12 o'clock for a nice vocal efx. cool
I love this compact 2.3 lb mixer because it easily slips into the side pocket of my keyboard case.

Scott

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#341169 - 03/01/12 04:18 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: Scottyee]
john smies Offline
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As Scott says this 1002FX is the one to go for. Particularly because it it leaves you a couple of mike inputs that you can furnish with reverb and other effects. Definitely the best choice imho.

regards
John


Edited by john smies (03/01/12 04:19 AM)

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#341170 - 03/01/12 06:05 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
Saswick Offline
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Morning Shim Scott Tony etc

I have just decided a different approach, to improve my recording both studio and live, I've just sold both my Alesis multimix 8 mixers my Zoom H2 and replaced them with a Zoom R16 which acts as a 8/16 channel mixer, records 8 channels simultaeously, acts as audio interface and worksurface for your PC/DAW, an all-round clever dick.

The results will hopefully be posted soon, I only got it yesterday so it may be some time.

Fingers crossed headphone

Regards



Edited by Saswick (03/01/12 06:07 AM)

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#341197 - 03/01/12 09:05 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: Saswick]
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#341223 - 03/01/12 01:05 PM Re: Small mixer [Re: tony mads usa]
Saswick Offline
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That's the one I just sold Tony, good little mixer.

Col


Edited by Saswick (03/01/12 01:06 PM)

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#341224 - 03/01/12 01:07 PM Re: Small mixer [Re: Saswick]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Nice that unit.
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#341236 - 03/01/12 03:25 PM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
MacAllcock Offline
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I'm using the Behringer 1002B, which is over budget, a bit bigger, and doesn't have effects

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/1002B.aspx

But it does have sliders and more eq / routing options, which sold it to me. Also it can run on batteries and includes rack mount "ears".
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#341243 - 03/01/12 06:18 PM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
shim Offline
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Thanks all for the input. Did these (behringer) ever fail on you? I'm worried that since it is cheap, it may not be reliable...

Again, I will use it for live performance of the tyros 4 and wireless mic system, and possibly another wired mic, connected to two powered 1k watt ev speakers.
Do you guys ever use effects for the tyros? If yes, can it REALLY make it sound better?

Shim

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#341247 - 03/01/12 09:59 PM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
DonM Offline
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I used a couple of Behringers for 5 or 6 years and they never failed. Except for a power supply cord on the little 802, it's pretty flimsy. The bigger ones have been faultless. I sold one to Semilive and he still uses it .
DonM
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#341250 - 03/01/12 10:44 PM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Originally Posted By: shim
Thanks all for the input. Did these (behringer) ever fail on you? I'm worried that since it is cheap, it may not be reliable...

Again, I will use it for live performance of the tyros 4 and wireless mic system, and possibly another wired mic, connected to two powered 1k watt ev speakers.
Do you guys ever use effects for the tyros? If yes, can it REALLY make it sound better?

Shim



Hey Shim,

Hell whats all this going high-tech, some of us can't even play the KBs we've got!!! rotf2

Just get out there and play good music Shim

I went to play at a local school at Christmas the the kids made that much noise I couldn't hear myself
play, how would I know what it sounded like, effects and mixers, always take a headset with you.. headphone

Enjoy your T4

Tony
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#341269 - 03/02/12 08:30 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: MacAllcock]
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I am allways wondering, how does a cheep mixer affect sound quallity?
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#341270 - 03/02/12 08:54 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
Joesax Offline
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I've been researching mixers, reading reviews, etc. IMHO the best at a reasonable price point for performance and build quality are the Mackie 402-VLZ3 ( under $100) and the Mackie 802-VLZ3 ( under $200 ).

Many recording engineers on another site have said these are excellent for the money. So if I were to buy one now it would be one of the above. Probably the 802 as it has a lot more capability.

Joe
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#341271 - 03/02/12 09:37 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: Joesax]
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I have been a long time Mackie user....but this is the mixer, that I would not trade for any Mackie...Edirol M-10DX..

Here are examples of why I use the Edirol...Same singer smile..same G70 smile and same Samson Q7 mic....The recordings were made a day apart, as I was not trying to make this comparison ..it does show the Edirol..works...

I used a different instrumentation, because this was my project at the time...All were recorded on a Tascam DR-07...


Here is the link ..

PS: disregard my vocals..I am no Donny or Uncle Dave.. frown



http://francarango.homestead.com/XFER.html
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#341292 - 03/02/12 07:40 PM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
shueymusic Offline
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Loc: Lebanon, PA
I use different mixers for different situations. I always run a balanced signal (Tip Ring Sleeve TRS - 1/4" to XLR) to my powered speakers.

Sonar VS-100... Bought on blowout at Best Buy for $190... New $499 to $599
---Built in SD Recorder/player
---2 XLR and 2 Stereo In
---Built in FX
This is the main mixer I use for our duo shows.

Edirol M-10DX... $150
---Back up mixer... always in the van just in case!
---Great Little Mixer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1KaScw46VY

Mackie DFX-12... $200 back in the day... I got it in 1999 or 2000
---For bigger gigs
---12 years old and still going strong

Yamaha n12 in my home studio

Yamaha MG10/2... Bought used for $50

Looking forward to the new Yamaha MGP16x for $799
---16-input 4-bus mixer
---8 channels of single-knob compression
---Dual FX - One SPX and One REV-X
---iPod connectivity - Steel chassis - internal power supply

It's funny how we spend so much on a great keyboard and run the sound through a $100 mixer.
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#341299 - 03/02/12 11:11 PM Re: Small mixer [Re: shueymusic]
bruno123 Offline
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What are your needs?
I bought an Alesis mixer that records what it hears on to my IPod. List for about $375 Sam Ash on line had a special for $175.

Bachus,A good question.
I was about to change my Mackie mixer for a Yamaha in the same price range. Side by side I heard a notable difference; the Mackie was better by far. Same instrument, same settings.

John C.

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#341300 - 03/02/12 11:17 PM Re: Small mixer [Re: Fran Carango]
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Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Fran this is what got:
Sorry, the Edirol M-10DX is no longer available. We've left this page up for reference only.

Do you have another recommendation? I remember what you said about helping the Mids with an Edirol 10DX mixer.

John C.

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#341308 - 03/03/12 01:18 AM Re: Small mixer [Re: shim]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Johathan,

Is this guy a motor mechanic or a musician, have you seen his dirty old nails, shocked nice kit all the same.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1KaScw46VY
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