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#341900 - 03/12/12 06:26 PM
Re: MicroArranger on It's First Gig
[Re: jamman]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
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Hi Jamman, found a number of the styles too complex for what I wanted on my PA800. So I converted, or edited them down ie replaced a style track with a simpler one. Muting doesn't simplify a busy track. One thing that did help me for a couple of the styles, was actually cutting the pattern short ie by the time the pattern got to just say bar 7 & 8 it had changed, and no longer suited the song I was trying to use it for, so I simply cut it back to the 4 bars that did work okay. It was something that was easily done in the PA800, by just changeing the Rec Length & CV Length from 8 to 4 in style record mode & saving it as a user style. It just cut off the last 4 bars of the pattern. Maybe also doable in the KMA??
[/quote). The problem some times is in bass line in variations (in some cases) and turning off/lowering the volume doesn't help.we need more simple styles (3rd party or well converted ones) support in Korg arrangers in 8/16/ballad/dance /swing catagories and less on hip hop /modern catagories.another examples that I found is (like I said above) dance category(over done/busy bass lines thru variations) which are more apparent when you do chord changes related to that particular styles and they don't go well. Some are very song specific with riff repeating acc track ( 1/8 note simple piano / or bass line backing becames very busy in 2nd and 3rd variations doing extra riffs in 7th and 8th bars.There is also MAny song specific styles -with MJ' Billie jean, Santana's Smooth, Macarena,Lambada, etc, ).what I see with KMA is since it's affordable ,it will follow Psr's path,( many users, more people writing styles ,covering better ones, more 3rd party styles later even though it's the technology from 2001.
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Korg PA5X 88 note SX900 Band in a Box 2022
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#342025 - 03/14/12 02:54 PM
Re: MicroArranger on It's First Gig
[Re: hammer]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Hi Deane, I really enjoyed seeing your KMA gig setup. The Kma is my first Korg as well, and I'm still having a lot of fun with mine. I'm finding it relatively easy to tweak performances and styles to sound just right to me thru my PA system to match my own personal music genre, repertoire, and taste. Though I certainly appreciated checking out John Smie's resources (thanks John ), of which included a few specific song setups I might use myself, even those, thru my Pa System would require further tweaking on my part to suit my individual taste. I continue to take the Tyros 4 out as my main gigging axe and reserve the KMA for casual grab and go get togethers and parties. I love having both the Yamaha and Korg sound, both different yet terrific in their own way. - Scott
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#342077 - 03/15/12 02:29 AM
Re: MicroArranger on It's First Gig
[Re: Scottyee]
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Senior Member
Registered: 05/05/00
Posts: 1384
Loc: koudekerke, Holland.
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".....I love having both the Yamaha and Korg sound, both different yet terrific in their own way...." - Scott
The essence of what I have been saying for a long time Scott. There is no longer any need to bash whichever make as they are all terrific in their own peculiar way. As I mentioned many times before a Korg -Yamaha is a winner in whichever price range you decide to get it. And of course the Micro on top of a (rather bulky) Tyros 4 is ideal. I am glad you have been able to use parts of my extensive programming for your own purposes even if you had to add some personal tweaking here and there. I have never maintained that it was perfect. After all it is a very personal approach but it does show much more of the potential of the keyboard than just the factory settings imho. A lot of folks have simply started using my set as their basic set , mixing it with elements from the factory registrations, which goes to show it serves its purpose.
For first time Korg players the learning curve is pretty steep, I know and many have asked why Korg has not (yet) released an instruction video for the PA50/Micro. Probably because it being based on 10 year old technology they assume that most folks will be familiar with it to some point and besides they' d rather sell the more expensive and recent models I guess. However Donny's suggestion to check the PA800 video tutorials on youtube is a very good one I think. Admittedly the PA500 and PA800 are a different kettle of fish compared to the Micro, but the structure of styles, sounds and their editing is a very similar one. I also wonder why so many people would complain about the extensive manual that comes with the Micro and I am not referring to the flimsy starters manual in the box. On the CDrom and on the web as well there is a hefty indepth manual. People should read it cover to cover before they start asking questions how this and how that. Accompanying my 2012 package I have written some manuals that deal in detail with the loading,saving of data as well as the structure of the Micro storage, as those who have got my software will be able to confirm. In conclusion I can only say to you Scott and all those who have added the Micro to their existing (Yamaha/Roland) set up : a very wise move !!
regards, John
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