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#343993 - 04/23/12 09:36 PM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: YamahaUS1]
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
I'm surprised that Yamaha keyboards still don't have a style restart button.

It's still hard to insert a 3/4 or 2/4 measure into a 4/4 song.

When I briefly owned a Solton X1 about 10 years ago, the one feature I loved about it was the restart button, so that wherever you were in a rhythm it would start at beat 1 as soon as you pressed the button - perfect for odd measures or for someone who's accompanying and playing too fast or two slow.

The only solution with Yamaha keyboards is to press the sync/start button and to play the next chord immediately so that there's no break. When you accidentally play the chord before the sync/start button, you get a horrible Oops silence.

This feature would seem to be a no-brainer.

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#343994 - 04/23/12 09:48 PM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: YamahaUS1]
Eric, B Offline
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Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2029
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
Hi Steve,
Technics had a cool feature, where you could step record chords: lets say 1 measure C 1/2 measure G 1/2 measure F (to keep it simple)
The KB would then keep repeating those chords and you could change variations and use fills.
Great for improvising and jaming.
Thanks for listening
Eric
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#343995 - 04/23/12 10:01 PM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: travlin'easy]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Steve,



4. Expand the capabilities of the Music Finder Directory to where it can save Transpose, and also link to MIDI files.
.

Gary cool


Gary

The newer Yamahas do link midis to the Music Finder.

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#343996 - 04/23/12 10:03 PM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: TomTomSF]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
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Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Originally Posted By: TomTomSF


- PLEASE alphabetize the styles on all the style categories. The current random order is a pain when sifting through 5 or 6 pages of styles



Tom G.


From my point of view the current system of grouping similar sounding styles together rather than alphabetically is the better way. IMHO This also allows you to jump from one similar style to another live making for more variety and sounding more like a real live band.


Edited by Scott Langholff (04/23/12 10:15 PM)

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#343997 - 04/23/12 10:08 PM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: Scott Langholff]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Sounds like some like the volume sliders. They are ok, but, please put the Registration Memory buttons back in the center of the keyboard. This makes it way so much easier for anyone, beginner to pro, to make the easiest and quickest changes using right or left hands. It also is above the main playing area for the melody so there are times when you can be playing a note with your right hand and hold it while using a different right hand finger to change the registration.

If they decide to keep the volume sliders maybe up on the left side like Korg would be better.

I definitely would prefer the two button system below the screen to continue.


Edited by Scott Langholff (04/23/12 10:11 PM)

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#343998 - 04/23/12 11:13 PM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: YamahaUS1]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Regarding the location of styles alphabetically or in groups as they are now:
Just allow us to arrange them the way we want. As I said, edit, delete or move Factory styles.
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#344000 - 04/24/12 12:13 AM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: YamahaUS1]
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
I always thought it would be a great idea to be able to press the Voice buttons and have your favorite preselected piano, trumpet, sax, whatever come on at the touch of the button. So if the most used guitar voice is Jazz Guitar then when you press the Guitar Voice button up comes that voice already engaged. Or if Sweet Trumpet is your most used trumpet voice, just press Trumpet and the Sweet Trumpet is engaged, etc. And also be able to group your favorite voices for each voice catagory in order of use for quick access.

I also would like the original system of accessing user voices to return to what it had been on my T1 and T2, and I see is used on the S910. And that is, the way I would use this feature for quick sound changes is I'd set up the first user voice I was going to use later in the song first, then I'd either use ots or reg mem. Then to quickly go to my preselected user voice later in the song I'd press reg mem 1 which was set to piano in R1, then go directly to my preselected user voice. This allows you to go from a two or three layered ots or registration in a zip. As it is now, if I press preset 1 which is still piano R1, regardless of what user voice I had set up, it will go to the piano voice in the user section. Whatever is set up in the reg mem buttons now, whatever the last button is pressed it brings up one of those voices in the user section.

As it is now, the only way you can preselect a user voice to be used later is to go from ots to user, but if it's a layered voice and if it has harmony on, you have to hit several buttons to pull this off.

So, between reg mem buttons not being in the center, to not being able to access my user voices as I always has, the T4's way of doing this has been a major letdown for me in this respect. If it wasn't for the great sounds, styles and voices, I would have stuck with my T2. I don't know when the switch took place, whether it was the T3 which I never tried or the T4, this is a problem area. Like I said it still words the old way on the S910 and I'm thinking it may be an oversight by Yamaha.

I actually hope that an OS update will fix this for the T4.


Edited by Scott Langholff (04/24/12 12:17 AM)

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#344001 - 04/24/12 12:31 AM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: YamahaUS1]
sam.safran
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Styles that are less repetitive. This can be done without writing completely new styles since the existing ones span a broad range and are generally very good. For example, taking two similar styles (e.g., the two Viennese waltzes) and randomly choosing patterns from each as has been done for many years on Lowrey styles.

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#344003 - 04/24/12 02:18 AM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: YamahaUS1]
abacus Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5395
Loc: English Riviera, UK
1. Volume sliders for all sections and parts
2. Touch Screen (Large)
3. The ability to load Akai Samples
4. Integrated VST Host (Usable on all sections)
5. Style convertor designed specifically for Yamaha (Can be an option)
6. Audio drum tracks (In addition to better drums)
7. Audio style backing loops with multiple chord recognition
8. Simple style backing so that those that wish to play with their left hand can, rather than having to always play along with the style. (My pet hate with all Yamaha styles (See Roland for how to do it)
9. Advanced editing options for styles and sounds (And I mean advanced) similar to workstations. (Could be an option)
10. Comprehensive Midi Controller options
11. 76 Notes
12. Multiple keyboard split points for both left and right hand

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#344004 - 04/24/12 03:00 AM Re: Yamaha Listens [Re: YamahaUS1]
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 2867
Loc: Tampa, FL
HI Steve,

Thanks for soliciting feedback. Here are my suggestions:

1. The Music Finder is a great concept, I would like to link an Entry in the Music Finder to a Registration. It's as simple as that. When I call up a MF entry, the entire registration bank should load with it.
2. Audio Bass and Drums Loops. When people say they want better drums in the Tyros, I believe what they are asking for is a better groove or LIVE FEEL, not so much the live sound, because in the current Tyros you can change drum samples and drum part volumes. When I owned the Audya, I was taken a back from the groove and swing of the styles.
3. Trio Button - I would love to have a ONE press button that would drop out all other style parts instantly except Left hand, Drums, Bass.
4. Pianist Button - Similar to the Ketron Audya a ONE press button that puts the keyboard in Piano mode.
5. Chord Sequencer
6. Edit and replace Factory Style Locations - Some of the On board styles are just not for me, I want to replace them with styles that are applicable to my gigs and the my style. I will never play Schlager styles, why should they take up space in my Style Banks????? The File Access button is useless, I can't get it working correctly.
7. More Contemporary Jazz, Country, Latin Styles - These are becoming HUGE music genre's right now and I need MORE!!!!
8. Better Harmonizer - Almost there, current model falls short of TC Helicon quality.
9. Organ Voices - need more control of the Leslie parameters. You cannot accurately reproduce the Leslie speed up/slow down sound WITH THE MOD WHEEL!!!!! I don't want another pedal on a gig, I use sustain and Harmony on/off.
10. How about built in Blue Tooth so that I can use the Lyric display and a wireless pedal to turn pages?
11. Better integration into the iPad, imagine being able to either edit parameters or view the Tyros screen/lyrics/score on the iPad, Realtime!!!
12. Mixer/Effects Master override of Styles and Registration. I would love to turn off ALL effects on the styles from a MASTER button or setting, rather than edit each individual style. This is more of an OVERRIDE of the Style Effects/Volume setting.


Edited by kbrkr (04/24/12 03:27 AM)
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