Hello,

WERSI PEGASUS Wing Professional with latest SoftwareRelease V1 R00.04 Demo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vMBpCfGeNI


Regards,

Carlo

Thanx for the nice demo..... This model Wersi sounds really good, great Scats, Guitars, Drawbars, etc, ....would of liked to hear more..love the big screen....is there a vocal processor in the Pegasus also? Is this an open architecture Os also?

Keep an eye on Music Store TV as if my German translation is correct, there are more to come.


Hi Carlo

Dont forget you can actually embed YouTube Vidos in your post by clicking the TV Screen in the bar above where you type your text, and then entering the URL

Bill

Hi DNJ

There is no vocal processor in the Wing, (Although if demand was there it could be added) as most users ignored the vocal processor on OAS 7 instruments in favour of the TC Helicon system.

The exception was the US, where artists appeared to like the Wersi one. (Alter hearing it I am not sure why though)

The Wing has a totally different keyboard OS to OAS 7 instruments (Although the main sound engine remains the same, as does style compatibility) and so is not as open or as flexible as OAS 7 instruments are, (Hence the price gap) but it is still fully upgradable, with new features, sound packs/styles and VST being added all the time. (Sound/Style packs and VST are obviously cost options, just like the premium packs are for Yamaha keyboards)

Hope this helps

Bill

Bill thanx for the info...I'd love to play one here somewhere in the USA Philly area? Not that I would ever have a need for them but I thought the scats rivaled the Roland G70 The Pegasus looks like a nice package ....hope to see more demos soon.

Blah Blah Blah,

It's sounds hellish good but will someone tell me how much the software is to get it to this level. OMG dare we ask or has anyone got some we can copy....did I just say that... Billy's on a roll now...

BTW bill how many abacus beads do we need to buy the software.

http://www.computerworld.com/common/images/site/features/2011/01/abacus.jpg

Sounds very good indeed, but I can't help comparing it with a much older arranger with 76 keys...the Roland G-70.

I think the G-70 has better drums, the sounds, including the drawbar organ, electric pianos are very much on par...and the G-70 is how old?

Perhaps Fran knows when it was introduced, but I really don't see a big difference between the demo posted, and the on line demos of the G-70.

Of course, sound is subjective, and this is my personal opinion.

Yes, the Wing can be upgraded with software, but how much will it cost the user to sound significantly better than a far older arranger (and one with a known reliability record)?

Ian

Look I love the Wersi sounds and this Wing sounds nice, but anything to do with the name Wersi sends shivers down my spine, historically anything to do with it is in tatters and no trying to convince me that it now under new ownership won't wash, a lot of water would need to go under the bridge before I dip my toe in.

NONE: thats how it comes OOTB

Bill

Hi Ian

I too am not overly impressed as the demo seems more focused on the German market (Logical I suppose) which tend to be a younger crowd (Who love that type of sound) then us old fogeys round here, however I think this is the first video with more to come so hopefully we will get more sounds and set-ups as used in the usual arranger demos. (Boring, but then when some folks get older they lose all sense of adventure )

Bill

Actually, Bill, I think the G-70/E-80 have that same type sound...nothing wrong with modern...that's also why I like my Tyros4...it sounds both new and vintage.

The Wing sounds good, but it is nothing special...it doesn't sound distinctive, but rather a copy of what is already available at probably cheaper prices, and, perhaps, better reliability.

I have to stay current musically because of my clinician/demonstrator job...thankfully Yamaha provides some great new styles with their Premium packs and, thanks to the kindness of my good friend Tony Hughes, I also have the luxury of the 1 gig expansion board so I can add new sounds.

There is nothing being played on the Wing in that demo that can't be covered by current, and older, arrangers.

Hopefully, there will be software available to make it a bit more identifiable.

Ian

PS...I have to say that the quality of the demo itself, is very good.

Whoops Ian,

Was Wersi ever any good on reliability, not from what I have seen, I would like to see inside one before I bought one, designed in Germany by BMW engineers, built in China by robots, and played by, well you make your own mind up ???

Bill,

I would need some convincing bearing in mind the Germans are having to bail out the Italians so they can keep building Ketron, Korg etc etc, they will need all the Euros they can get, it won't be coming from the Wing then from what you say...

??????????

Bill...stop confusing Tony..


Tony,the soft synth bank of sounds comes with the Wersi...all included in the modest price....

Fran,

First up, it don't take much to confuse Billy Wersi, he's from the south. You got me more confused: (1) you have stopped writing in the 3rd person (2) I didn't know that you're were secretly PMing Billy Wersi to get up to speed on the Wing (3) If it's such a modest price perhaps you could buy one and do some demos (4) never though you could read German(5) Never thought that anyone from USA would ever buy anything made in Germany.




The Germans rule the World in good engineering, but not arrangers, leave that to the Italians whose engineering skills are exceedingly questionable.


BTW I doubt the USA importing the Wing and I doubt Wersi ever exporting to the USA, so perhaps end of story, not done in 110 volts 60 Hz, Oh look out I see a Billy about... Oh yes they do variable voltage as standard... and it doubles up as a Tig welder... and an AC cooling unit..like a Swiss army knife the Wersi Wing... thats why it took so long to write the manual..

Note sure what reliability issues you're talking about? I've had my Abacus for many years now and had several software revisions and never once has it failed. I'm sure Bill can chime in regarding his Abacus but my experience has been nothing but great. My Yamaha TOTL arranger had more issues than I care to remember with never a remedy in sight.

Don’t worry about Tony, he only got electricity a couple of years ago, and he has still got his head buried in Wiki to try and make it sound as if he knows what he is on about.

BTW: you can always tell when he is really confused as he then can’t even get my name right.

Don’t worry Tony, keep taking the Meds; it will come right in the end.

Bill

Whatever the reliability level, Tony, whether good or bad, is immaterial at this point, as there is not much chance we'll see a Wing, or any other Wersi for that matter, in my neck of the woods.

And, judging from what I've heard from the posted demo, and other Wersi demos in the past, the instruments have a "dated" sound and aren't anything special, in my opinion. They appear to be designed solely for the European market, and, also in my opinion (and the dealer's as well), would garner very limited interest. There also seems to be very little support.

The company and it's instruments, do have a dedicated, and apparently small but loyal following (at least on SZ), and we have had discussions on Wersi in the past, and this one appears to be heading in much the same direction.

http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/018014.html

Hey, there are unusual cars that have a loyal following, despite their quirkiness and limited appeal, so, it's not much different with arrangers/organs and keyboards in general. Some people, like Mr.Gray and Mr.Ensnoreyou, to name two, just have different tastes...nothing wrong with that.

Ian

Ian,

Are you always a condescending ass or do you just feel the need to change my moniker to your liking because I said my Yamaha product had serious issues? I have no problem spelling your name correctly so you shouldn't have a problem spelling mine correctly either.

If you want to spout your opinion about a product by all means do so, but it still baffles me how you manage to do so having never used the product. It takes a real genius to review a product their hands have never touched.

I have looked at you username a few times and I always have a feeling to type it "AreYouSure" I think it is easy to get it wrong, what was behind picking that name in the first place, did you type it in in error when you signed up, I have never been afraid of hiding behind a user name therefore you got my real name, I could have used Mickey Mouse, it is certainly easier to remember than yours, I mean Mickey Mouse...now what where you saying about your Yamaha, if you had one that went wrong it would be a surprise, I know someone who works for Yamaha and their failure rate is near zero..

Tony Hughes Esq

BTW I have been called all manner of names by people I have worked for and frankly I don't give a damm as long has they pay up when I'm done. You could ask Nigel if he could change your name to a more roll of the tounge one, we could start a thread...NEW NAMES FOR MEMBERS but beware it might start a war, when I call Billy Wersi, Billy Wersi I think he likes it, he's on at 1900hrs our time so he will no doubt tell me one way or the other.

Now Donny what shall we call you...heeeeeeeeee

My apologies for spelling your name wrong...I didn't notice it until the editing time was up, so I couldn't change it. My browser's spellchecker doesn't recognize such a queer moniker so it slipped by quite easily.

However, calling me very disrespectful names (totally against forum policies, as far as I know) in retaliation, won't correct misspelling, but certainly indicates a lot of latent hostility and vilification on your part.

I didn't misspell your strange user name deliberately, but your name calling was clearly intentional.

I do not take any interest in what you say about Yamaha products...it is just your opinion, and you are well known for unnecessarily bashing the product (or the company) in the past.

Therefore, to try and minimize any unessential friction on SZ, I've taken to ignoring all your statements regarding Yamaha.

In your own best interest, and with a nod towards Nigel's forum policies, I respectfully suggest that you stop the name calling, and try some politeness for a change.

Ian

I've never been unpolite and me calling a spade a spade because you can't seem to refrain from throwing a jab in for no apparent reason hardly constitues me being unpoite. I think you need to stop the back peddling, man up, and start heeding your own advice. Your "mispelling", as Tony also does often, is deliberate and intended to incite. I did get a laugh out of your ridiculous excuse though. You're like a three year old who throws a rock then denies doing it when confronted.

My opinions of Yamaha arent bashing, I owned a TOTL Yamaha arranger, it had hardware and software issues that Yamaha was well aware of, and their way of alleviating the problem was to discontinue the product. At least my opinions of products are based on actual use.

I've owned many Yamaha products i.e. pro audio, synthesizers, arrangers, home audio, computer speakers, etc., and I don't bash them as you state. You're only reason for chiming in was because I said my Yamaha product had issues. Unlike you I'm not on Yamaha's payroll, I do care if the product has an issue, and if that issue isn't resolved I can dump the product and let others know about those problems. If you're beloved Yamaha product had problems and you voiced your opinion in forums stating so, you'd most likely be out of a job.

Yes, Tony, most of us here have no problem using our real names, at the very least, our real first name.

It's also nice to see the person's photo being used as their avatar as it makes us feel we know them just a little bit better. It probably shouldn't be this way, but, we tend to find these people easier to trust and they are usually up front with everything.

I suppose some people have a need to remain anonymous, and perhaps it is necessary for them to use queer user names that are difficult to spell, and even harder to interpret, especially when these names have nothing whatsoever to do with music.

Oh well, it takes all kinds.

Ian

PS...I have a mouse here named Mickey...soon to be unceremoniously evicted.

Ian... Parapraxis would be a fun user name actually.

Ha ha...with the way spellcheckers work, it's easy to let some user names slip by with wrong spelling...sometimes using one wrong letter, or leaving one out, will end up with a word with a sometimes comical, and completely different meaning, Tonewheeldud.

See what I mean?

Now, in your case, we know the new meaning isn't true, but sometimes, as in one of the more recent parapraxis, we can see it is very appropriate.

By accident or design, I think we have all fallen prey to your lack of specialist spellcheck equipment at some time on this forum Ian

Since my PC was made in Asia, you can rest assured, the spellchecker slip-ups were purely occidental.

Funny I have a mouse here named Tony lol ... just kidding Tony ... I couldn't help myself lol.

Nigel,

Does it gather dust in the ball and get jumpy and temperamental like me or is it like the Wersi Wing all hi tech infra-red and still jumpy and temperamental.....eeeeek eeeeek

I have no doubt that the Wing will be OK in the end, thats the problem the end comes too soon for us all..do we have the time

One hell of a thread this:

Wersi Wing
User Names
Mice Irradication
PC Mouse

I too have a mouse (made in China). His name is Mousey Tung.

chas

The old ones are always the best Chas..