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#347880 - 07/27/12 09:30 AM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: frankieve]
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Looks like a much more conventional, if small, type of PA setup compared to the Bose. Sure, the Bose has got its' drawbacks, but it also has strengths. Its line array type speaker setup DOES project more evenly over a wide and long distance. Ideal for gigs where you want the volume close and far as similar as possible. Background music, restaurants, corporate functions and the like.

The problem starts when you use it for more party and dance situations, where people want to get down to a solid volume on the dance floor, but people at the bar would still like to be able to talk. That throw then works against you.

There isn't really any ONE system that is best for ALL occasions... unless you ONLY play one type of situation!
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#347889 - 07/27/12 11:46 AM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: frankieve]
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So far, I haven't found any situation where the Bose didn't outperform every conventional system I've owned in the past half-century. It works extremely well in large halls, mid size restaurant/bar venues, and even a couple living room parties I recently performed.

Take a careful look at the graphic associated with the posted system and compare it to the dispersion graphic of the Bose L1 and L1 Compact. The Bose may cost more, but I sincerely believe it will effectively and efficiently cover all the bases.

I still have a Barbetta Sona 32-SC sitting in the store room that hasn't been used in years. I kept it around for a backup, but the Bose has been so reliable that I never had to use it. $250 plus shipping - any takers?

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#347893 - 07/27/12 12:30 PM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy


I still have a Barbetta Sona 32-SC sitting in the store room that hasn't been used in years. I kept it around for a backup, but the Bose has been so reliable that I never had to use it. $250 plus shipping - any takers?

Cheers,

Gary cool


Gary same story here with my Barbetta. Let's make it a package deal I'll have one to sell too same price and terms as your sale Maybe someone needs a stereo set up. wave

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#347959 - 07/28/12 07:19 PM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: frankieve]
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If you look at the Bose Compact design, it's not really a line array because of all the different angles the speakers are pointing to. Because of this you end up have sound bouncining everywhere which then leads to phase cancelation and weird frequency bumps and dips.

I took the compact and the Nano, set them up at the end of the room, the Bose with it's full set-up, and the compact with the sub with the 2 tops 1 on top of the other. and when playing pre-recorded music the Nano was a more realistic natural sound.

When I play a piano sound through it I once again liked the sound of the Nano over the Bose.

Yes Bose was the first for portable line array type of speaker, but it wasnt the last.

I'm pretty sure the Ford Model T was the first assembly line auto, but it definitely wasn't the last, and I'm pretty sure there are a couple of companies that are doing it better,

HK Audio is a professional audio company with drivers and amplifiers made for exactly that.

When I talked to HK they said they knew Bose was the leader in these lines, and design the HK Elements and the Nano against the L1 and the compact, since hearing both of them, I have replaced my L1 with the Elements and now doing the same with the Nano and the compact.

Hearing is believing, you should give a listen before making a decision on what you may think, rather than actually comparing them.
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#347980 - 07/29/12 06:51 AM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: frankieve]
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The Dawn system was just 2 small drivers and a sub, there was no new design or any effort put into it, and the sound was exactly that. I had a Dawn system for a couple of days, got rid of it quickly.

The Compact and the Nano, both are using new design and technology to bring a better sound to a conventional idea. A speaker on a stick will always be a speaker on a stick, unless things are modified to address the short comings, and thats what Bose and HK are doing
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#347994 - 07/29/12 03:08 PM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: frankieve]
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I would likely use this only in stereo. Frank, how does the Nano's frequency response change, when you uncouple the top cubes and set them up apart? Do you hear a loss of some of that low mid stuff which I feel is so lacking from the Bose's?

And, when cranked close to its limits, how well does it cope..? Just about any small system can be made to sound at least adequate up to a certain point, but push it past its comfort zone and they all get ugly in different ways, at different volume levels.

Have you tried pushing both the Compact and the Nano to their absolute limits? How do they compare at the upper end of the volume range?
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#348185 - 08/01/12 09:12 AM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: frankieve]
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Has anyone tried Nano 300 speakers with Tyros4?I'm seriously thinking to buy two Nano speakers for my Tyros4.Are these dual Nano speakers sound better than using two Bose compact speakers?Please give your advice.

Thanks,
Sunny.

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#348407 - 08/05/12 10:57 AM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: frankieve]
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Interesting... I was just about to order a Roland BA 300 and now this comes along.

Does this have reverb? How many inputs?
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#348420 - 08/05/12 12:46 PM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: frankieve]
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Paul,

Go to the first post by Frank and you can look at the specs. It appears to have 3 XLR inputs, plus an RCA stereo in for a CD player. I couldn't find any effects controls, though. All of the information is listed on the link.

Diki,

I've never pushed the Bose L1 Compacts or L1 standard to anywhere near maximum - never had to. On one occasion, while playing in a large hall, I pushed the L1 Compact's master volume to the 1-O'clock position and it was way too loud, but still very clear and crisp with lots of bottom end. There was absolutely no distortion, even at that level. At the time I was using a pair of Compacts and the audience size was approximately 450 people in a hall measuring approximately 200-feet by 150-feet. I was positioned against a wall in the middle of the hall. Someone of one of the forums said they thought that Bose had some sort of built-in AVC device that prevented over-driving the system, but I'm not sure if this is the case. Even though I occasionally play for a somewhat younger crowd at private, poolside and marina parties, I rarely crank the volume up to ear-bleed levels. Just never found it necessary.

I took a real close look at the Lucas Nano 300 specs, and from all outward appearances it's just a conventional sound system consisting of a sub and couple of satellites - not much different than some of the Logitech systems, but far more costly.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#348429 - 08/05/12 03:13 PM Re: The Bose Compact Killer.... [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman
Interesting... I was just about to order a Roland BA 300 and now this comes along.

Does this have reverb? How many inputs?





One more advantage the BA330 will give you....Anti feedback control is excellent....I have seen major feedback problems on the Bose Compact...Mic feedback with longtime experienced performers...They are always looking for the best position of the Bose...to avoid the feedback problem...

I have also heard the Bose level reaching a distortion point...Just as I have heard the limiters on the BA330 kicking in avoiding distortion..I prefer the latter.. smile
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