Is anyone selling or willing to trade a Roland BA-330 for a pair of Kustom Powerks PW50 50 watt powered PA cabs?

The PW50's work just fine, no complaints, but will trade if the deal is right. The two cabs are worth $100 each; like new, no scratches very very low hours. I bought these as a back up for my Bose Compact and have had no use for them otherwise. It'sw been a slow summer and I feel like buying something...
http://www.powerwerks.com/page/PW50-20.aspx

Hi Cass,

Are you going to run stereo keys through the BA? I had one and I didn't care for the sound. It was plenty loud, but the acoustic piano was dismal. Anyway, good luck.

Let me know where you're playing some time. I sell in the Detro metro area about every day and work in Brighton. Love to meet you and see you perform. (I sold all my gear and don't anticpate playing for several years)

Jim, I'll be in Livonia in September otherwise everything else is Downriver. I'll email you the date and location.
The BA would also beome a backup rig, but something a little more versatile for a growing ensemble at church. It's completely possible my keys will never go thru it except to test it out. I had a pair of CM30s and just keep rotating stock... ha ha.

I just finished my gig at the Crab Trap...I used only the BA330 for two mics and BK5...and yes the piano did sound great too...

The band booked there had the equipment on stage,,2 EV 12 ' non powered speakers, a sub woofer, and a 1000 watt Yamaha amp....I can not figure why all the gear at the Crab Trap...

The BA 330 was plenty ..and the patrons say it sounded much better than the band gear...

Be careful it has its limitations....otherwise at low vol its fine

What doesn't?

The "only" thing that could be conceived as a problem is the built in limiter(protects the unit against damage by folks that can't set the sound system up properly)

Two examples..I set the BA330 on table height the last two gigs I used the BA330..One was a DJ reunion gig,, about 120 people in a wide room with the dance floor in front of me, and tables set up on both sides..Folks commented on the sound that allowed them to talk with each other without screaming..and the sound on the dance floor was great for dancing ..

Last night, I filled in with the intention of using the other bands gear....One look at the EV system and the use of a power amp to passive speakers,,,,I knew it was nothing but trouble in the Crab Trap...so a trip to my SUV ..and the BA330 made it a great night with a small space available (I had to leave room for "Kath" my partner..


Biggest problem when using lower powered speakers is over doing the input feeds, once the signal is too hot an limiter is designed to kick in....I have seen this mis management, even on my Higher powered Yorkville's ..You have to know what you are doing...most of the time equipment will conceal your mess ups...but not always...

This may be a little OT for this thread, but here goes anyway:
What's happened to eBay? It's become an eStore for retailers and there are hardly any private sales on our kind of equipment. You're lucky if you can find two private sales in any category anymore. Hell, I can go to the corner GC or even Best Buy and vuy a BA330, but I'd really like to find someone who has one in excellent condition selling it at a price I can accept.

BTW, thanks Fran for your input on this. I know you have one and use it all the time. I value your opinions.

EBay fees are almost 9%........word to the wise Cass.......play thru one before you buy....

Cass - great! Can't wait to meet you and be part of the '0ld folks' in the audience

LOL Fran. My piano playing probably sucked

Here is a phone pic of last night...BK5 and to the side of BK5 is the BA330 on a table...The rest of the gear belonged to another band....oh yeah...to the other side is my partner Kath....eye candie ..yes, but she can sing too...besides one of the best out front performers I have worked with...

Now I REALLY want to come sit in...only to test the BA 330, or whatever it is....REALLY!


R (undercover horn dog) Lay

Donny, I like your advice, but very often the stuff I'm interested in just isn't around. Believe it or not, Detroit is not the hub for big ass or even private owner music stores that carry this stuff. I often rely on opinions from guys like you, Fran and others to help me make a determination. Because of this, I sometimes find myself selling as soon as I've bought, but I've done that with stuff I've tried out first too. Thanks for looking out for all of us...

Ok Just MY opinion. The Ba330 is a great amp with a great mixer section, effects, patching and its light, EXCEPT it has no serious kick, AKA lack of power. Sent mine back after 1 day. Its running on just 30 watts. Great for very mellow gigs but I can't imagine what kind of Fairy Dust Fran sprinkles over his to do dance music, and I do greatly respect Fran's knowledge and opinions. I ran it with the main volume full out so as not to limit the amps and set everything else on middle range. OK for solo piano and maybe a vocal but add any drums or bass with some kick and its outta gas. I've been doing solos with my trusty old Crate KX220. Doing my outside deck gigs with it and been told to turn down. Arranger, voice and DJ --BUT it weights 70 lbs. I really wish the BA330 had some power and despite the high price I would grab two in a minute. For the extra money I'd get a Yamaha Stagepass.
Fran, I'm coming back to the CT for dinner to hear this thing !!! HA!!!

Bill, it depends on the intended use...The CT acoustics do not require our 70 pound speakers....Like you when I need the big thump...nothing short of my Cubes will do...

The BA330 was designed to use with up to 100 people, and I have found it to work great in venues like senior gigs, restaurants, and even lounges and combo rooms like the CrabTrap..It does the same rooms that a Bose compact will do...The 30 watts stereo compared to the Compact 100 watts mono is marginal in the above venues listed...In fact the mids are better on the BA330, and the Compact has the bottom edge (Sub woofer)....but for a swiss knife unit..you can't beat the BA330..

Numbers on amp ratings is a farce to me...you have to try the units in a real setting....

My Cubes are 100 watts, and it out performs the 1000 watt competition that others rave about....The edirol mixer turned out to be my "perfect" match for the Old Cubes..

The best 70 pounds a gig could have...but when I don't need the extra power...the 29 pound BA330 works for me..


We all know we don't take a knife to a gun fight...

Fran, brilliant....!!!!.just when it was boring in OT posts you resurrect a my amp is better then yours!! Lolol....I just had some great Kung Pao Chicken extra spicy!!!

I use my little BA 330 on about 1/3 of my jobs. they're jobs with 100 or under customers in a relatively small space.

Heck, for really small jobs (50 or under), I sometimes use a Roland CM 30.

These would be low volume jobs with little or no vocals.


GREAT STUFF!


Russ

All this "mine is better than yours" stuff...that's when personal opinion gets confused with actual fact.

Kung Pao Chicken....YUMMY!!!

Ian

BTW, Donny, Happy Birthday to you...60 years isn't old...if you're a tree.

Thanx for the HB wishes Ian....didn't know you were into Asian fare also good stuff!...

I didn't see any Bk5 or B330?

My Barbetta Sona 41c w/ 2-10's does the job for my small stuff- I think there's a couple guys out there with 32c's that might be available(???).

Hey guys, I never said mine was better than yours just two different beasts. I agree with Fran on the BA330's uses as he stated in his last post. Right on. You ain't gonna DJ a wedding or rock the house with this "swiss army knife" amp or even two of them. I'm just trying to clarify that for someone who never heard one it does have its limits. Again, I loved the mixer, effects, routings, weight, speaker configuration. If Roland would drop the battery thing an put in a couple of hundred watts in it, it would be a killer system and much more versatile. The SA300 is discontinued and finding an SA1000 is impossible. Those are the amps that really intrigue me but where are they???

Can I still come to dinner Fran??

If you bring Sue..

Bill- Missed you in Clark this past Saturday- when are you there next?

Most of your kids have a ghetto blaster with more power than the BA330...

Fran

Do you really think I could go to the CT without her? One of our favorite places. Even with he seasonal crowds the food is consistantly good. As is the music HA! And you can talk over it--- amazing !
I can really appreciate how hard it is to work that room with its "barn" acoustics. When you get it loud enough to hear yourself clearly, its too loud.

Simple trick for vol control.....if You can't hear the Hum of the audience.......your Too Loud..!