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#34973 - 04/10/10 11:23 AM Audya Pattern Editor
skude Offline
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Is it possible to copy from one style to another? I.E. Copy End 1 slowrock 4, to End 2 slowrock 8.
Thanks
skude

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#34974 - 04/10/10 11:46 AM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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well Skude, following is from recent AJ post:


3. STYLE CREATION (Available as of OS4.0)

* You can create a style from scratch or build a style using style parts from existing styles (both factory and user).
* Select a User style and press EDIT to access the PATTERN EDITOR.
* Select NEW STYLE to create a new style from scratch or simply EDIT the current style selected.
* Here, you can COPY parts from other pre-existing styles into your styles.
* You can also copy their corresponding AUDIO parts (Drum, Bass, Guitar) or the Bass from STYLE A, GUITARS from STYLE B ...etc. It doesn't matter as they all pull from the same library.

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#34975 - 04/10/10 12:58 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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I tried copying a part of an existing style to another style. As far as I can see, this does not work. Yes I can copy parts within a style, but not like on e.g. my XD3. Here it is possible to select a source style and a destination style.
Have I missed something on the Audya.
AJ can you help here on the procedure....please.

Joe

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#34976 - 04/10/10 12:59 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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For some reason I can't seem to find it, "copy" within a style OK, but from another style, not sure, just printed the manual, have to take a better look.
skude

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#34977 - 04/10/10 01:05 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Joe
Think you posted while I was writing, I have the same problem. The style I'm working I want to copy end1 from another style, can't find how to select the style. there must be a way to do this.
skude

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#34978 - 04/10/10 01:39 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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AJ,

are you correct when you say:

" you can COPY parts from other pre-existing styles into your styles."

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#34979 - 04/12/10 03:43 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Yes you can. However, unless you do not want to also copy the AUDIO part (Drum, Bass or Guitar), both styles cannot differ by great BMP. So you cannot say copy from a style with an original BPM of 40 into another style with a BPM of 120. BPM must be about 15-20% close, otherwise you loose the audio quality of the style.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,

AJ
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#34980 - 04/12/10 10:52 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
Yes you can. However, unless you do not want to also copy the AUDIO part (Drum, Bass or Guitar), both styles cannot differ by great BMP. So you cannot say copy from a style with an original BPM of 40 into another style with a BPM of 120. BPM must be about 15-20% close, otherwise you loose the audio quality of the style.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,

AJ


AJ,

how does this work? How can I differentiate between source and destination pattern?

Joe

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#34981 - 04/13/10 01:14 AM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
skude Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Joe0710:
AJ,

how does this work? How can I differentiate between source and destination pattern?

Joe


Same question from me
thanks
skude

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#34982 - 04/13/10 02:14 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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seems like ONLY AJ knows how to do it.

AJ, please post step-by-step

seems like this simple task of source/destination is not so simple :-)

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#34983 - 04/14/10 10:06 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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AJ,

yes? no?

if so,
how EXACTLY?


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#34984 - 04/14/10 11:56 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
skude Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
AJ,

yes? no?

if so,
how EXACTLY?


thanks


Leezone
This was a tough one, not even one Audya owner that reads this that can help.
skude

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#34985 - 04/15/10 11:14 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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i'm not expert but...

i'm starting to think that you CAN'T copy parts from style to style even with OS4(source >> destination)
even though it's been said that you can

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#34986 - 04/16/10 12:19 AM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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When we can't get an answer here, where can we get it??
skude

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#34987 - 04/16/10 10:00 AM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
skude Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
i'm not expert but...

i'm starting to think that you CAN'T copy parts from style to style even with OS4(source >> destination)
even though it's been said that you can



Leezone
I think you are right. From manual: F9- COPY: Used to access the copy menu where you can copy from one STYLE PART TO ANOTHER. cannot find anything about copy from one style to another. Hope I'm wrong.

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#34988 - 04/16/10 01:02 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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AJ,

you've said you can...

can you PLEASE ley us fellow synthzoners know HOW?

or just give us the bad news and say it can't be done...


thanks,
Lee

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#34989 - 04/18/10 04:00 AM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
Dusan Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
AJ,

you've said you can...

can you PLEASE ley us fellow synthzoners know HOW?

or just give us the bad news and say it can't be done...


thanks,
Lee


Leezone,
I supose AJ allso dont know HOW....

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#34990 - 04/18/10 10:20 AM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Dusan,

AJ should know because he said:

" you can COPY parts from other pre-existing styles into your styles."

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#34991 - 04/18/10 11:45 AM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Leezone,
I know they should know,but they dont respond of any question.That can be frustrating and if I am honest that no respond from moderator of this site angry me wery much.
We simple cant get any answer from Guy who know exsactly where is problem and wont talk with as.
That is humbly!
Regards

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#34992 - 04/18/10 12:11 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
Sandi Offline
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I tryed too to copy but just into style parts not from other styles.I belive there is a catch but if Aj know maybe he will tell us.
Maybe you are a little hard with Aj.He has other things to do not just answer our questions.And answering this forum take a long time.I understand him.Tne bigger problem is the factory e-mail.They should have a man to answer all the mail we send via Ketron site.
I had a few answers time ago and they were correct and worked.But they should do much better.This way supposed to go.

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#34993 - 04/18/10 02:53 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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I allso can anderstant AJ with what situacion he is naw,but he is allso moderator of that site,and that is obligation...so sorry!

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#34994 - 04/18/10 04:09 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Dusan,

AJ is not moderator of this site
he helps us and posts WHEN and IF he wants

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#34995 - 04/18/10 07:44 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Friends.

Sorry for the late response. I used my AUDYA (with a later OS) and quickly rushed an answer out there that for now is not valid.

COPY only available within the same style. Copying from style to style soon to come (Source <-> Destination).

Again, sorry for the lateness.

Thanks,

AJ
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#34996 - 04/18/10 07:50 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:

COPY only available within the same style. Copying from style to style soon to come (Source <-> Destination).


AJ,
thanks for the honesty

i know you said soon to come but...

please STRESS to Ketron that MANY users need this,
and this is a basic function on all old Ketron Keyboards

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#34997 - 04/18/10 10:01 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:

COPY only available within the same style. Copying from style to style soon to come (Source <-> Destination).


Great!
But this would be even better if it could be done via style
creation/editing software at the PC as well.

Cheers
GJ
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#34998 - 04/19/10 12:11 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
Dusan Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
Friends.

Sorry for the late response. I used my AUDYA (with a later OS) and quickly rushed an answer out there that for now is not valid.

COPY only available within the same style. Copying from style to style soon to come (Source <-> Destination).

Again, sorry for the lateness.

Thanks,

AJ



Thank you AJ

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#34999 - 04/19/10 12:20 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
Dusan Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by leezone:
Dusan,

AJ is not moderator of this site
he helps us and posts WHEN and IF he wants


Leezone

is hardly to recognize from my distance who is,or who is not Moderator.
Main site of that forum say diferent fact...

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#35000 - 04/19/10 02:52 PM Re: Audya Pattern Editor
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Or it might be the Virus of:
No Ketron arranger can copy from style to style unless bot elements are of the
same exact number of Bars. If Source style element is 4 bars and Destination has already
elements with 2 bars length then no, it wont copy. It was one of the issues i rasied many
times on meetings with AJ if it can actually be fixed with an OS update, not just on Audya.

[This message has been edited by Nedim (edited 04-19-2010).]
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