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#350017 - 08/30/12 10:38 PM
Re: Yamaha just announced new PSRS950 & PSRS750
[Re: Machetero]
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...If the audio drums are even close to the Audya ones and you can replace MIDI drums with Audio drums in any style, then Ketron is in trouble... Nah my friend, The Audya is much, much more than audio drums only. And it's drums are streamed direct from the HD. So are all other audio parts. Beeeeg difference! I came from Yamaha. I now have an Audya. Ketron will NEVER be in any trouble, they are just too far ahead. Remember, this is four years later...But then, you can NEVER understand or appreciate this fact until you own an Audya yourself. I honestly love the Yamahas and have only good things to say about them. If I did not have an Audya, I might have shared in all this excitement. But the Audya is simply in a league of it's own, and the guys over at Ketron are not sitting back on their laurels. They will always be the leaders in this field. The S950 will most definitely be another STUNNING arranger. But it will also most definitely not be a suitable Audya replacement. Anyway, back onto topic. I just HAD to correct your statement. Sorry for the Hijack! Let's only discuss the new Yamaha PSR S950 over here like George intended. We can discuss the mine against yours stuff seperately, but as always, it will not be a good idea. The new audio drums & multipads are most definitely a HUGE improvement. Couple that to the HUGE library of styles available everywhere and Yamaha definitely has yet another winner here with good sales to come as proof. Lets face it, Yamahas sell!!! Keep well all, Henni
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#350028 - 08/31/12 03:22 AM
Re: Yamaha just announced new PSRS950 & PSRS750
[Re: George Kaye]
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The 'doo be dooby doo' voices are nothing to do with audio loop technology. They are simply regular SA2 type Voices, Donny, that the style plays.
I think Yamaha are on the right track, TBH... The technology to play chordal and melodic lines isn't QUITE there yet, as Ketron's inability to play more than simple Maj/Min/7th in audio and has to add in MIDI notes to complete the extensions kind of shows.
But for drums and percussion, the idea is great. And, for multipads, if you like the 'loop/arp' kind of modern music, a LOT of very contemporary flava could be dropped in, as long as you understand, just like most loop music, that the pitch of the loop can't be adjusted. It's not going to chord follow, but that isn't really the main thing with that kind of music.
For audio loop technology with time stretching (so you can at least change tempo somewhat) to come to this price point is quite a game changer. If anyone can pull it off, Yamaha can. But I have a very nasty feeling they are going to mess it up by trying to make it proprietary, just like their arranger and WS samplers. Just about every OTHER WS and at least Korg arrangers sampler sections can read Akai multisample loads (and some do Soundfont). This makes the selection of proper multisample libraries relatively easy to load up.
But Yamaha have a proprietary multisample format. Sure, you can load in .Wav's one at a time. But a vel-switched drum kit can be HUNDREDS of separate samples. Or a four layer piano (88 notesX4 layers+resonance samples). Yamaha would make you load them in one at a time, and do the mappings yourself. IN-FREAKIN'-SANE!
Let us just pray that sanity returns to their poor crazy minds!
If they try to milk this cow dry by making you have to buy Yamaha branded drum loops, well, look at the style selection. A few every few months, then nothing! That is not going to make this the success it could be.
Pray with me, fellas, pray with me!
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