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#352161 - 10/04/12 06:10 AM Debate
zuki Offline
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Finally! 61 million viewers now see............
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#352238 - 10/05/12 02:19 PM Re: Debate [Re: zuki]
cgiles Offline
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See what, Zuki? That if you package a bunch of lies in a presentable enough package, you can persuade a lot of low IQ individuals to buy into it. Or is WHAT is said less important than WHO is saying it. Some examples:

1. Born in Kenya
2. Socialist
3. "Not like us"
4. Doesn't understand America or what it means to be American
5. Muslim
6. "Hates White People" (Glen Beck)
7. Apologizes for America
8. Pals around with terrorist
9. Didn't really graduate from Harvard
10. ---and the list goes on...an on....and on......

Why not have the courage to say what you REALLY mean instead of hiding behind insinuation and inuendo. Luckily, there are enough people of good will who make up their minds based on fact rather than the constant barrage of BS coming from radical right. BTW, did you happen to notice the level of diversity in the attendees at the two respective RNC and DNC conventions? Wow, I guess a picture (or video) is worth a thousand words. But in all fairness, you DO have Allen West and Herman Cain. If you combined their brain cells you could have a synapse. Anyway, for your sake, I hope you aren't in the 47%.

chas
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#352240 - 10/05/12 02:54 PM Re: Debate [Re: zuki]
zuki Offline
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Thanks for having the guts to speak for both of us Chas! But now here comes the crap (job numbers up today) and more to come. Plain sickening. Wake up America.
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#352241 - 10/05/12 03:50 PM Re: Debate [Re: zuki]
cgiles Offline
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You don't need me to speak for you, Zuki. You've got Glen, Rush, Sean, Sarah, Michelle (B), Allen, and even Jack Welch (the only one of that group that's not certifiable) to not only speak for you but even convince you to vote against your own interest (unless you happen to be in the 1% - not too many Arranger Players in that group, though). Sure there is 'crap' on both sides, but when you're motivated by a well-documented and deep-seated hatred of the current image of the 'White House', you tend to rachet up the rhetoric a bit. I think even you would have to admit that the vitriol towards Obama is a bit over-the-top and wayyyyyy more personal than towards any other president. Me, I think it's sad that the once proud Republican Party has to stoop to preying on people's fears about the perceived "browning of America" in order to sell a bunch of policies that demean and diminish women and deny voting rights to those who don't subscribe to their policies and ideology. The ignorant, the hardcore, and the unenlightened will at least be up front about their disdain for science, education, equal opportunity, religious freedom, and any other attributes of a modern progressive society. The rest hide behind the more respectable facade of 'economic concerns'. But down in our hearts we all know the truth, don't we.

Have a nice day.

chas
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#352268 - 10/06/12 01:16 PM Re: Debate [Re: zuki]
zuki Offline
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hmmmmm......If things go incumbent, I'll fall from the upper middle class too! (middle class is gone). Who would run your organization, a business major or a coddled "pick the losers" politician?
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#352269 - 10/06/12 01:45 PM Re: Debate [Re: zuki]
cgiles Offline
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Wow! Guess you really like the 'Kool Aid'. Let's see now. One, the son of a very wealthy and prominent polital family whose father was a former Governor and Mother a Senate candidate; the other, the son of a single mother living on food stamps, but Obama is the one that was "coddled"? Oh well, as the saying goes, "there is none so blind as he that WILL not see".

Oh, and BTW, the "UPPER middle class" did very well over the past four years. Also, "upper middle class" these days usually implies income of at least 1 million/yr or better. Those nursing home gigs must have been paying much better than I thought. Anyhow, I hope you handle the fall gracefully.

chas
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#352488 - 10/10/12 06:08 AM Re: Debate [Re: zuki]
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#352531 - 10/10/12 02:31 PM Re: Debate [Re: ]
captain Russ Offline
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Dave, so glad to see you posting again! Paulsen was GREAT!

Hope you're well.

Chas and Jim, you're both friends, and I'm so glad to see that, while spirited, this discussion is articulate, cutting and lots of other things....but not PERSONAL!

As a people, we need this kind of discourse. That's what personal freedom and commitment is all about.

Hope you're both well!


Russ

PS: I'm a lifetime Republican and former member of the Mormon church who is a "dyed in the wool" Obama backer.


Go figure!


Edited by captain Russ (10/10/12 02:34 PM)

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#352539 - 10/10/12 03:56 PM Re: Debate [Re: captain Russ]
cgiles Offline
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Originally Posted By: captain Russ
..... I'm a ....... "dyed in the wool" Obama backer.


You rotten turncoat. How dare you suggest that women should get equal pay for equal work. You're a traitor to the cause.

smile smile smile smile

chas

PS: So you're a Republican, so what. Nobody's perfect smile .

Seriously though, when the heck are you coming down this way? Also, have you heard from 'our guy' lately?
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#352553 - 10/10/12 09:27 PM Re: Debate [Re: cgiles]
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I have no party affiliation. But not being a US citizen I don't get to vote anyway so it really doesn't matter. But I trust Obama so if I could vote ... and did I mention I love dogs and know how they need to be treated. How people treat animals says so much about their character and how they relate to people.

http://www.dogsagainstromney.com/


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