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#353207 - 10/21/12 05:47 AM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
Saswick Offline
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Registered: 01/05/01
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Loc: Garstang, Preston, Lancashire,...
Hi Tony

You can have my KMA for a reasonable sum it's just heavy enough for an oldtimer to carry, I been re-juvinated.

Col

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#353225 - 10/21/12 11:42 AM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
I think Korg made a major mistake choosing WHICH buttons to double-task... Using the Memory/Bass Inv/Man Bass buttons was a problem, as those are buttons you tend to use a LOT (or at least, some of us!) so Korg had no choice to make the double press needed.

Personally, if no extra buttons could be added (and why Korg didn't think this through is a problem) my choice would have been to use the Mode buttons. Re-task the Demo buttons (maybe simultaneously pressing STS Mode and Auto-Fill) then use pressing Style Play and Song Play simultaneously would change the Sequencer and Sound buttons into CS Rec and Start/Stop.

The trouble, of course, is that Korg have silk-screened the functions onto the case now, so our chance of getting a more logical layout is slim to none. So, I guess our only hope is a redesign of the touch screen layout. There's room at the bottom for a couple more tabs. Maybe far left CS Rec, far right CS Play/Stop (so you don't accidentally hit the wrong one).

Hey Korg... How about giving me a call before you design the NEXT PA with a CS? LOL
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#353226 - 10/21/12 11:50 AM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 3354
Loc: The World
I agree Diki, there is plenty of room left..It could even be incorporated into the midi markers page which is accessed by pressing the buttons on the side of the screen...very quick.

In fact the more I think about it, the more sense it makes to have the CS control AND the midi markers together in the one section.

It can be achieved relatively easily with software, but Korg do not see the need and so will not spend the development resources (small as they would be) to do so.

Believe me it was asked for, and a few times in private messages with Korg Italy reps!!!

A good concept , poorly implemented in my view.

Dennis

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#353234 - 10/21/12 12:44 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
I agree. The problem is that bringing this arranger concept to a set of players that have never had it before, and then making it unnecessarily complicated tends to ensure that it won't become a go to feature, and may eventually get dropped.

TBH, I am not sure that the reason Roland dropped the feature was, they kept placing the buttons for it FAR away from the keybed, and may have made it 'out of sight, out of mind' for the majority of Roland players. And it never was an FC-7 option...

But I think I disagree with moving the CS touch screen buttons to the Marker page. Having them front and center (ok, front and edges!) on the Main Page makes them more likely to be used, and more likely to be convenient to the player. Anything that moves you off the main page tend to be a more marginal function.

I still think that re-naming the function the 'Third Hand' makes the concept more understandable to the average player. 'Sequencer' simply brings too many associative impressions to mind, and I still find myself having to explain, time after time, that the CS is NOT a 'Chord Track' like older arrangers used to have.

If you have any email addresses for the development team at Korg, forward them to me, please. Perhaps I can articulate a good reason for them to improve this?
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#353237 - 10/21/12 01:07 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
miden Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 3354
Loc: The World
Diki, just contact Paolo Trammanoni (the "public" face of Korg at the forum) via a PM at the Korg forums...James also has a contact higher up in the Korg Italy arranger division..I am not at liberty to tell you the persons name, but maybe James can, or would be kind enough to pass on your details so they can contact you..

So as well as sending to Paolo, if you write James a PM via the Korg Forums, that would get the ball rolling I would think...

Dennis

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#353238 - 10/21/12 01:08 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
miden Offline
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BTW, I agree, on reflection, having them along the bottom of the main page would be FAR more beneficial!!

D

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#353240 - 10/21/12 01:10 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Diki]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
I personally would never use it,just like some other included features on any KB, it's pick and choose for YOUR needs......it's a gimmick for the few that do....just another feature they come and go.... CS isn't for everybody....if you need to play on top of something get a KB with "Audio Backing Tracks" rotf2 coffee

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