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#353030 - 10/18/12 05:08 AM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: Shiju]
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Thank you all for your time and valuable suggestions...

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#353054 - 10/18/12 10:27 AM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: Shiju]
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All good advice, but I might consider that possibly, if you don't have a very technical soundman, maybe the digital boards are a bit overkill and confusing..?

Something simple, with one knob per function might be able to be worked by a wider variety of available helpers?
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#353064 - 10/18/12 12:02 PM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: Shiju]
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Diki is offering some good advice, I'd listen.
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#353065 - 10/18/12 12:13 PM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: Shiju]
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I agree Diki.But, now days all digital board have presets.It is great starting point.They will have lots of mics and digital mixer has everythingbthey need for vocals.Eq,compresor,gate,efx and more..
Presonus Studio Live is easy to use.Almost like analog mixer.Once they go digital mixer,they will never go back to analog..
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#353071 - 10/18/12 04:22 PM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: mirza]
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Give Electro-Voice a look. They are tops and are super clear. I know Peavey also makes a "Sanctuary Series" for church applications but I haven't given it a look.
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#353092 - 10/18/12 11:43 PM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
All good advice, but I might consider that possibly, if you don't have a very technical soundman, maybe the digital boards are a bit overkill and confusing..?

Something simple, with one knob per function might be able to be worked by a wider variety of available helpers?


Well the Bose L1 ( or 2 for stereo ) may well be the easiest sytem to get up and sounding good in a room without a lot of technical knowledge. Plus its sound quality would be best suited to a church. It's not like you need a system with a lot of punch in that situation, but simply one that fills the room well without being overbearing. And is much less susceptible to feedback problems than a conventional system which makes it ideal for both speech and music.



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#353098 - 10/19/12 05:56 AM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: Shiju]
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The most fantastic church system I've seen was made by Bose. I saw and heard it in the church my daughter attends. It had a pair of sound columns mounted on each side of the massive stage, the subs (2) were positioned beneath the stage on each side, the choir was about 30 people, the preachers (2) were using Countryman 6 mics, and the choir members were all singing through SM57 beta mics. The piano and organ were miked as well and the overall sound was beyond anything you could imagine. I would suggest that you contact Bose personally, talk with their engineers and they will likely send an sound engineer to your church to look over the venue in detail. I don't know what the cost was, but I'm confident is was under the $10,000 budget you set aside for the project.

Good Luck,

Gary cool
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#353115 - 10/19/12 11:00 AM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: travlin'easy]
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Peavey does have a church line...the main line stuff in prettier packaging at about twice the regular price.

The thing about Peavey...it's built like it could withstand WW 111.

Church sound consultants are, sadly, sometime pretty unethical, exploiting the lack of knowledge on the part of the "committee"
appointed to purchase/choose equipment. That's probably not the case here.

The stuff you choose needs to be rock solid, performance-wise, easy to operate and you need to get it at 35-40% off of list price.

Russ

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#353156 - 10/20/12 08:11 AM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: Shiju]
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Things go wrong on church stages! Trust me, I've been there for plenty of it...

A mixer that the un-technical can quickly fix an overloaded input on, a mis-connected mike, a drum mike that got moved, a choir mike that ends up facing the wrong direction, a guitarist that suddenly decides that the Spirit is calling him to play four times louder than rehearsal... That's what you need!

Presets aren't what you need in a live situation. We often forget, because of our familiarity with electronic gear, that many others AREN'T. And it's no good being on stage when the mixer is at the back of the chapel! The guy behind the board can make or break you. Complicating his task with a digital board can come back to bite you. There are thousands of guys you can get to work an analog board, but those with extensive experience on digital boards are fewer. And those familiar with the particular board you pick even fewer than that.

Unless your church has the budget for a fulltime, reliable qualified digital soundman, try to pick your equipment based on the LEAST qualified guy you might ever find yourself using!


Edited by Diki (10/20/12 08:12 AM)
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#353168 - 10/20/12 10:01 AM Re: Sound System for Church [Re: Shiju]
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One of the largest churches in my area is using a pair of Bose L1...not sure what they use for a mixer, but I understand it is an exceptionally efficient and great sounding system.

No feedback issues, and superb sound distribution.

Ian
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