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#353178 - 10/20/12 12:51 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Listening to the sound and style demos at Korg UK, the PA-600 sounds terrific.

Are there any FreePlay styles (ability to play without fixed tempo) on-board, or available through Korg?

Excellent DNC sounds...again, very nice upgrade from PA-500.

All this, and a Chord Sequencer too. Awesome!

Just a question (perhaps you can answer this, Dennis?)...why is the EC-5 pedal, which is not an option, needed for smooth Chord Sequencer operation?

Ian
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#353179 - 10/20/12 01:20 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
miden Offline
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Ian it is because the CS needs a double button press to start recording, and again to stop, and if you do not time the presses to be concurrent ( and it IS pretty fussy on the timing, believe me wink ), it does not start recording...

With the EC-5, record start is assigned to one pedal and playback to another. Which gives a much easier method of activating and playing by a simple one switch press.

Plus it means a user does not need to move their hand off the keybed to use it...which for certain songs, particularly those with busy chord progs is a godsend!

Dennis

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#353180 - 10/20/12 01:27 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: Saswick
Donnie eat your heart out.

Just taken it out of its box

Will report ASAP

Col


Col your killin' me mad !!! CONGRATS BUDDY!!! dance2
Cant wait for mine hopefully soon also.....
please share all you can with us.....enjoy!! clap

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#353188 - 10/20/12 06:20 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
FransN Offline
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Registered: 05/16/09
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Poor me cry I ordered one a month ago and still waiting.
Congrats with your one Col party

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#353189 - 10/20/12 08:51 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Col,

I don't see the KMA, what's happen to the little fellow, not weighed him in for this one have you. You love your Korgs, good luck with it.

Tony
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#353190 - 10/20/12 08:59 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
Can't see why, if the buttons can't be re-tasked to single pushes (admittedly, they already have a single push purpose, this is why Korg decided to go double button push, IMO), you can't have a single button CS implementation on the touch screen.

In fairness, as your LH is often tied up chording, having the CS buttons where the RH can get to them as well as the left is pretty optimal.

Is there a MIDI command to start and stop the CS, Dennis? You might be able to use a Behringer MIDI pedal or something like that if you can....
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#353191 - 10/20/12 09:34 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
miden Offline
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Not as far as I know Diki, well at least not using any CC's at any rate.
What I didn't try was doing a "read" of exactly what sysex data was generated by the button push using Midi-Ox..although I am unsure as to whether that data is even "allowed" to be transmitted.

As the FCB1010 (Behringer) can be programmed to send sysex data, it might work...

Having the control on the touch screen would be handy too - I mean they already use the touchscreen for midi markers (no panel buttons can be assigned this function), so programming the CS control surely would not be too much of a stretch???

Dennis

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#353192 - 10/20/12 10:01 PM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
Tony Hughes Offline
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Col,

If you have a problem with the buttons on the left hand get your Doris to press them for you when you nod your head, better still watch the mighty Tostie how he does it, he doesn't have a Doris. Col I suggest you get a set of bagpipe next times, I doubt our experts can play the bagpipes, however I wouldn't like to put a bet on that.
rotf2

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#353196 - 10/21/12 12:52 AM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: miden]
ianmcnll Offline
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Originally Posted By: miden
Ian it is because the CS needs a double button press to start recording, and again to stop, and if you do not time the presses to be concurrent ( and it IS pretty fussy on the timing, believe me wink ), it does not start recording...



I wonder if that fussiness can be corrected, or greatly diminished, by an OS upgrade?

We had an issue with the sync-start not engaging properly on the midi recorder (Tyros3) that was remedied with an update, so maybe the PA-600 can be fixed similarly?

Ian
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#353197 - 10/21/12 02:06 AM Re: Guess what I've just got [Re: Saswick]
miden Offline
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Ian it is a deliberate operation of the OS, not a glitch. That is how Korg designed it to work!!

The question has been asked, and WELL in advance of the latest OS even being announced as coming. But like the markers, these requests fell on deaf ears I'm afraid!

Some folks don't have an issue with it, but as I tend to use an arranger in very limited "combo" (ie 3 instruments including me) fashion and using full keyboard, I always found it awkward at best without the EC-5...

I just feel it could have been done better...much the same as the midi markers could be more like Roland and Yamaha and have dedicated selection buttons on the panel...

Dennis

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